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What up peepz. Just a update on the above grow. FAIL.. seeds didnt sprout. Did a little bit of investigating. Seems like the taproots barely grew from the time of potting. Was abit upset. But then again . They were bag seeds. Frustrations aside. We ready to go again. After some long convos with @CreX. Decided to invest abit more to get going and be less disapointed each time. So. Starting from scratch again. Looking to go the distance this time. Made some purchases. 1. 150w cool white LED light for veg. (Highly reccomended by Crex) 2. Extractor fan. 3. 2 galon fabric pots. Wann keep a small stealthy grow. ( easy to upgrade later) 4. Had the Seagro nutrient. Will stick with this to keep cost down for now. 5. Biobizz bloom. ( reccomended by the store guy. As excelent and works well with my grow medium) 6. Freedom farms formular 1. ( guy who sells it. Says propbably the best in SA. Works very well nd easy to grow with. 7. Got a hygro meter for humidty and temp monitoring. 8. Ordered a PH meter. Tds meter. Mini miroscope thingy. And a pocket scale of wish. Should take about a month or so. ( try and make do until then. Reccomendations are welcome untill then) 9. Built a small grow box. Floor area 500x700 mm x 1meter high. With inlet holes covered with mesh. Extractor fan. Led light for veg only. Wraped the inside in some foil. Oh and it is a cardboard box. 10. Lastly and i think from my experience most importantly. I got me some seeds online. Biltong and buds worked Out quite reasonable and had a massive selection. I took 5 seeds. 2 photo and 3 autos. I think with my setup and low grow requirements i am gona mainly grow autos. But lets see how it goes. Also. Before the Mrs started asking alot of questions about my spending recently. I bought some seeds and started to grow some herbs for her aswell. Could use the grow box to veg these aswell. N make it seem like im doing a little bit for her too. Marigolds. Daisyz. Mint. Thyme. Lettuce. Corriander. Chives. Tomatoe. Chilli Pics below.

My very first harvest

Wassup 420 fam. Started my first indoor grow about 2 weeks ago. Not much happening at the moment... Strain- Original Orange Bud Auto from Biltong and Buds. Medium- Freedom Farms Classic Pot Size- ± 13 L Grow Space- ± 50x50x 180cm Lighting- 120w QB from @Master_G Light schedule- 18/6 Nutes- EHG Grow, Micro and Bloom Prayer Soaked seed for 12 hours then into jiffy pellet. Germination was slow and first true leaves were a bit on the yellow side. Not sure if its due to cold CPT weather or bad genetics. I'm just happy Stella got her groove back. Watering with only dechlorinated tapwater at pH 6 every 2-5 days Entering week 3 now and she's coming along nicely. Can I start feeding nutrients at this stage or should I wait another week or so?

OH I did all the steps in my wash. Full 4 bucket system. 1% peroxide soak Bicarb and lemon soak and jiggle Warm water soak and jiggle Cold water final rinse and jiggle

@Ill_Evan haha I can so relate to your concerns regarding a fire hazard. When I still grew indoors I was always so relived to come home from work to a home that wasn't burned down. @afternoon blazer all the best to you man! Hope you'll get a nice harvest. There's nothing better than some bud grown by yourself.

Y'know, the product that says it treats PM but actually does nothing.

Is that sommer raw aluminium foil in a cardboard box? Eish brah fire hazard. The foil could cause hot spots and isn't as reflective as we think. I rate you'd do better painting the inside white or using mylar sheets.

Gave budbuddies.co.za a once over, they very new. Facebook page isn't even setup. Guys looks young. They would probably honour your order. The bar is set so low now for local seedbanks. I myself would go buy through GSR, Biltong and Buds, Overgrow or Marijuanaseeds, depending on what strain I'm out to get.

There is people that grow with salts in soil. But at lower doses than what they recomend. If you do have microbes in your soil and you feed salts the plant will stop producing sugars for them. The plant produces sugars to stimulate certain microbes to increase the size of the microbial colonies. Certain microbes breaks down phosphate ions to chelated phosphorus and others break down ammonia to chelated nitrogen. Only chelated ions can be absorbed by the plant. Once you start feeding already chelated ions (nutient salts) the plant stops regulating these microbial colonies and thus will die off as the do not have food. So decide which way you want to go.

We have a new moderator onboard! Welcome aboard @Ill_Evan thanks for helping out

Small farmer boutique style FTW!! Would always support grassroots outfits over hypermarket if I could.

Unfortunately you get corruption everywhere there’s money to be made. Dinafem is my absolute favourite as everything I grew from them turned out to be how it was described on their website. Surely I would rather support a small farmer than a faceless big company, but then again I need to be sure to get the same quality.

I just wanna see some cut-up sunvisors

You can wash off PM very good with Bicarb of Soda (Baking Section in any supermarket). Use 2g per liter of water and a second bucket with fresh water. Gentle let it soak in the Bicarb bucket, then dip and rinse careful in the water bucket. Dry as usual. If you have Serenade, get a ultra sonic misting fan. Put a 50% mix into the dry room and let it run and empty, cook a little storm to disperse it all over the room, i add 1-2 oscillating fans . Stay out of the room till ventilated. The bacteria will starve and decay after all mold is consumed. Cure the usual way. I haven't see any PM since I misted the flat a few weeks ago. Gorillas are clean clean, and that is a very dense forest

if i remember correctly - the box is in the shower at the mo hehe so all good there, let the mother fucker buuuuuuurn lol @afternoon blazer the white paint does soind like a good replacement option. any matt white paint will do the trick, sommer PVA the box hehe

Me me I don't like fire, zero chances, no ragrets

Hence the peroxide hehe... I know it oxidizes non living organic matter very well

I'm always spotting stray hairs after taking pics of my buds hopefully haven't smoked too many..

Don't really wanna plant them in the garden tbh lol but let's see.. Maybe I keep 1 or 2

Give them a chance brother, they growing roots and making home first.

And week 7 as promised. Cam position got changed. Placed the cam up on the Fan rack now. If it gets over grown there.. I have bigger issues hehehe And sorry for the skew cam, the plant close to it had other ideas how it should be pointed

There is still plenty of nutrients in that soil. I would not feed it untill it starts flowering. And get some biobuzz bloom. That is all she will need.

Goodness @oldsandals - it would be great to share some coffee and sead expressions for Natal plants. I am very keen on this project 1000HillsNursery is setting up for me to grow soil based trails to see if we cant uncover the Trophy again - DP. Check it out on the Club page - we have to find. @Prom I have 20 years' of landrace in a mix in my general outdoor sativa grow stable - not really anything else but best bag seed from each year. If it can help your cause, gooi numbers.

@StickyD420 thanks man! Second grow for me! Never had such deep interest in something

Hope I can still enter... Plant power

Lets talk how to make easy hash. I will keep it more on the simple side, some decisions you simply have to make yourself, other steps are give and are rather a must. But as none of the steps are rushed, a rather relaxing procedure. First step is getting your grids.. which ones, I leave that selection to yourself, as not in the mood to hear: bought the wrong sizes because of you! I use 2 max.. (Google, decide, you can always reorder), I know people using 4 (i just think is a bit over done, if you consume the stuff and don't want to sell in different qualities. Depending on which "take" i rub, i skip the fine one completely, only use the fine one with take 1. I use a cheap Car massage system and put one side of the grids (rather firm connected) on one of those vibrators, set to max. This is not needed at all, I am just a lazy fag ^^ And you need a hard, very smooth surface below your grid.. mirror/glass works best. Once you have the grids of your choice, next order you have to do is dry ice (www.dryice.co.za, 20kg, R816 + shipping, 3mm pellets) and some clean silicon kitchen gloves or non powdered (like always when you handle weed) medical gloves. The dry ice will last 2-3 days, so order that best to the date you want to use it. When you store it, wrap some additional blankets around and place it beside your air intake for the tent Free CO2 generator. There is no need to put your dry left over into the freezer. You just wait 10 minutes longer with wet material, the dry ice does what it says.. it drys very quick ^^ and no liquid left overs. Material I use are fluff buds and material from dressing the A class buds I want to keep. Those are the GSC fluffies, made no pic of the WoW material i hashed, but looked 1 to 1 the same. GSC gets bubbled. In your bucket with the material you dump some dry ice pellets and shake it in in steps. In a 10 liter bucket I drop around 4 cups of dry ice. The 20kg box you get is HUGE ^^ would guess you can easy do 15 huge trees with that box. I had 5 Wonder Woman total. Used not even one quarter. Once it stops "steaming" the water is gone, mix carefully and check that none of those pellets enter your glove.. or you will end with a freeze burn, dry ice is -80C. When you take a bud out and squeeze it.. it should just crumble to dust.. ready to go. Take a hand full out and rub it firm in between your hands. the dry ice pellets will help you get the material fine. Don't take to much, but you are also in no rush, all will stay super cold. No need to dig in your fingers.. just move it gentle without any down force over the grid, that way your fingers stay warm. What falls through looks more like a fog. Depending how long you work the more you change quality. I work each batch around 60-90 seconds. Keep the material, you can do more than 1 take. First will be super sticky and very easy to form a ball, third to fourth will be more powdery and demanding a heat press to get some potency out. When done, remove the material into a second container and rub on a next batch with your hands till done. The fine grid will have collected 90% of the pollen you filtered out. I add some dry ice pellets to that pollen and let it cool down again. Then use a old credit card to gently move it over the fine grid with as little down force as possible. When you are happy, you put the batches in bags. To work with the fine grid, the lower you get the temperature, the better will be the result. (was take Nr4, so a bit greenish) The left overs from 2 10L containers And the result of the first take You can use a pollen press, your hands (gloves) or leave it in the natural chunk it forms by gravity inside the bag. Depending to that, color will change. But is very soft and very sticky... If you have a phone call and have to leave during a batch is on the grid, add some dry ice and let it cool down, that way you don't mess up your grid. Cleaning the grids, any soft brush will do.. if you cool the grid down with some dry ice, you get it rather clean.. just careful.. very cold things like to break way easier. Freeze burns hurt.. keep that in mind before you get one and don't "rub" down when you work the material.. only slide it gentle over the grid. Rest.. good luck and have fun

Aweh lekka ppl. Pic 4. The Fruit Punch line is on the edge of the next level. 2 best boys and girls. 2-3. Seedsman Lemonchello haze doing her thing. Smelling dank and skunky. 1,5,6,7. Fruitpunch ladies flowering out. Terpine profiles weren't impressive and the bloody Nanners in late flower don't help either. 8. Growing out some Gorilla X's and a wildcard Swazi bag that germed on the greenhouse floor in winter. It's will to live earned it a place and the vigour is clear being double the size. 9-10. The Purple Russian Express from Kalashnikof is not disappointing. Not a massive plant given the time of year, but she is more stinky spicy purple bud than anything else. 11. Some actual ''tomato'' trees bearing fruit. Staying organic with the feedings, supplementing the Seagrow and Ecobuz with banana and apple smoothies (incl wood ash and coffee grounds). Molasses and AACT keep the micro flora happy. Softsoap and canola spray for the aphids and whitefly. Had hoped there would be fewer bugs in winter. Only highlights the importance of IPM for all growers. Good growing all. Cheers.

Winterisation is a temperature reduction after the wash to chill out any surface waxes extracted. If you do a small batch - it does not really matter, makes the fluid chunky, but it is flashed when using a nail or Dab rig. 40C is the better temp to aim for when allowing any wash fluid to be boiled off. The turpenes start flashing 40 - 60C if you want to retain. Time is then the issue. Your heat source need s maintaining etc. I have just done a wash of 90g of Cerious Bud (I think it was BlueBerry ) and I forgot it on the coffee warmer at 100C for 1//2 hr while sorting out staff. I vacced it after to check, and there was zero gas in the Oil or no bubbling at all. Not too smart, but the point is proven for higher temps. Not being careful with heat just removes some of the cut in turpentine's and waxes and will change the colour to more darker shade. If you are comfortable to take a slow approach with Alcohol then it is an efficient stripper. Taste will tell how much you were able to remove. I would say a good six hours on 50 - 100C will not damage your cannibinoids and the longer at lower temps will allow more alcohol to evaporate. Trying to get a descent photie on my J5P is not helping much as I can't Macro - but this shows some wax in the oil...

and you dont need to be in a mad rush about it. we are here to always strive for the next upgrade or next improvement and always push ourselves for more and better and thats coming through nice and strong in this thread but the honest truth is upgrades and improvements can take very long!! the plants wont die, and the tinfoil reflection i suppose is better than the brown cardboard reflection, so it will suffice for now, until month end, until you are ready

Yee I think either straight up mylar sheets or the matte white spray paint are probably best options.

for a cost effective solution - matt white paint. unless you have some visors laying around, i would rather put money into actual mylar film, which i think would work out more expensive than a few hundred mills of paint even a matt white spray can should do the trick or any surface that is white, like panda film which i think is cheaper than mylar with just as high reflection

next level Makes total sense. Never would have thought about molasses. brilliant idea. thanks man ! interesting approach you have there. different strokes for different folks. I like that.

I run all my plants in organics, and if it's a plant for seeds I keep a full on organic approach. If it's a plant for bud, then I usually supplement MKP at an EC not really pushing past 0.8-1.0. From about 4 weeks, And then once again at 6 weeks.

I'm not saying it is wrong to add salts. You could probably do both you must just know what you are doing to the microbes in your soil. But like @CreX is saying molasses will keep them alive. I am currently experimenting with adding wood ash to my water to see if a potassium boost late in flower does anything to the plants.

I have had great results with salts in soil. But @SkunkPharmis right... The roots will stop producing carbs for your microbe population... But because it's soil, they will still stick around and continue breaking down whatever is left in the soil. Some mollasses feeds will help keep them happy and busy helping your roots whenever they can

yo shot for the info bro sounds like feeding inorganic nutrient salts to soil will do more harm than good? I'm trying to keep it as natural as possible so will defs be going organic with this grow I reckon since plants are living , the soil it's in should be as well

@SkunkPharmGreat stuff. Thanks man. I was originally planning to grow in a hydro bubbler bucket thats when I got the EHG nutrients. Will anything bad happen if a person should use EHG nutes in organic soil?

Still haven't gotten round to the farm. This weekend seems clear of cold fronts. Got a really smelly GTH male though. Being transplanted tomorrow and going into 12/12.

Woop woop it's da police

Looking good. Must say Im also in the begin stages and my growth are also slow. The forum really give great input and guidance. One thing I learned patience are key.

Yo man! I am busy selecting plants to take forward to the next flower round and I have some that won't fit my space. If you're keen then they are yours... I'm also in midrand area. Hit me up with a PM if you're interested

Lets make a constructive change to your setup ^^ If you get 1.. just one Quantum Board 288 IM301B diodes, 3000k 660nm version (alibaba, aliexpress, where ever you find it cheapest (diodes are made from Samsung, you just pay the soldering ^^)), with heat sink and the fitting driver, around 120$ plus shipping.. you have enough light for your little setup. If that works and you are happy and you want to expand the space.. add another QB. Having a good light doesn't mean you will not kill the plant(s). But your path to the final product will be way smoother, beside, the final product is something you most likely will enjoy if you used a quality seed.

Due for a small update. Sadly none of my GTH seeds sprouted, but I'm hoping for a female clone from the source to include in this winter's run. 11 May Well over 200 of my F4 beans sprouted on a farm neither here nor there. Haven't been to visit since, but going through this week. So excited to just get out there and away from the suburbs. I want to go and remove all the males and do some other thinning. All these little ones have since been planted in the ground and well on their way. Will update on the visit. Then I have 2 of my F4 girls here, chosen from 20. I finally have a female with morphed phyllotaxy. There have been hundreds but never a female. These two, are destined to be treated with STS and will be my Choco pollen donors that are pollinating clones taken from the farm. These are in soil I got from @SkunkPharm, and they are loving it. Thanks for helping a brother out when lockdown was at high tide. I haven't fed once, and these were transplanted to 15l pots from 5l this morning in the same soil, so giving it a proper test.

Hahaha.....bruh. I'm sure a plan can be made. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

No nutrition for 3 months now, they look super happy to me.

Well done and welcome @Ill_Evan Happy to have you on the team!

Mid winter outdoor Chocolope cross.