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Either Week 9.5 flowering / Just over 7 weeks since true flowers under the @Liontree Supernova 320 ... The bubbleberry glue pheno in the second image is going to be done soon soon. Probably harvest this weekend, the rest I will leave for another week at least. Small bit of PM ruining my life, but nothing detrimental, got a dehumidifier in so should be the worst of my troubles going forward.

My Blueberry Kush cut finishing up fast now.

Such communism. I would rather have no regulation what so ever. I don't think the opposite to illegalisation is regulation. The government shouldn't always have first prerogative to establish status quo. Although I hear what you're saying, it really would also be nice to just know what you are allowed and not allowed to do, simply, on one piece of paper, and that it's enforced fairly by authorities. If one were to truly franchise the DPC model and create a brand with multiple locations and access to the public I suppose registering as a non-profit would be the way to go. If you are one grower with one club at one private residence with only private members, it's about as complicated as a gardening service.

Some nice colours coming out. 1st and 4th pic GTH 2nd pic gorilla zkittles barneys farm 3rd pic Major General Banner from GSR seeds 5th and 6th pic Blunicorn from in house

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@felix2000 if its your first auto, perhaps rather just do LST for now to avoid any disappointments and to help you gain a better understanding and idea as to how that specific auto grows over multiple seeds. You can achieve great results with just LST from an auto and a nice flat canopy too.

Ultimately it would come down to the plant - if its a fast grower and very healthy and takes time before it goes into flower, then you may be able to get away with topping it. If not, then I would avoid it as that could just make matters worse and stunt the plant and decrease your yield. Due to the uncertainly with autos, if I were to grow some (or when), I will likely just do LST and not topping or any HST.

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I'm busy filling up my scrog and some main colas can't be tugged underneath any more, I have 3 weeks vegging left and I'm considering topping the cola at the back ( black) and hoping that the rest of the smaller colas ( blue) gets the upper hand. What's the pro's and cons doing that regarding yield. That main will be to high with the time left Any advice will be appreciated Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

I tend to use 3-5 clones in a pot, as to one plant, to cut down on veg time. Yield is roughly the same. So 3 pots and I'm above the 8 flowering plants limit [emoji456] Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

If you are able to get good reveg take cuttings off the plant and grow from the start. Your plant will be disease prone if you dont cut away all the old plant growth.

There is already 3 or 4 other people doing the same in ct. I think they should rather include the club structure in the bill so that the clubs can be regulated. There will always be people who cannot grow for themselves.

@SkunkPharm DOES IT AGAIN! too good!

Exactly... If cape cannabis can lease grow space, what's to stop anyone else from doing it

Done! And yea... I'm most worried about nosey ass peeps calling the pop, an the pop being nosey enough to come count my shit... I feel grow space should be regulated and not plant count... Outdoor grow space can be larger than indoor grow space... But to me regulating plant count is more of a pain in the ass than abiding by area constraints. Like I have about 6sqm of grow space... Surely calculating the upper limits of what a plant/plants can grow per sqm should be a deciding factor? Like... What if someone sucks at growing... Certainly none of us fine 420SAins... But what if. He has 20x 15cm plants that are in full flower? Not knowing what the plants are capable of becoming, but is now in the wrong for trying to meet his 1.2kg allowed quota that he still won't meet with tiny plants...

Alright cool, monitor and see I guess. Hopefully it does not come back. I feel spraying bud during flower isn't ideal, although if it gets to a point where you have to - then just make sure a fan is run over the bud to ensure it dries properly and I doubt it will become an issue.

Nah not at all, I have the net suspended above the canopy with wires. So when I am putting plants in it, I raise the net high up, place the plants, and then lower the net down slowly and spread the stems where I want them. Then let them recoup after the stress for a week or so, further adjusting some colas... And the rest is history

Topping can be done but is stressfull, all depends on the actual genetics , most of the autos i have tried dinafem,advanced genetics, seedsman usually start preflower by week 3 doing anything thereafter will stunt, if veg could be stretched a week or two longer it should be ok with topping, LST is still best for autos personally, it must be adjusted every day and some light defoliation can do wonders in the long run, i feel topping an auto is a waste, rather do it for Photos the results speak for themselves with the plants i have grown. Regards

I also used to count from after the stretch, but that is a bit hit and miss for me anyways as I found that not all plants look the same or have the same development at day 21ish.

The Banana Monkey Autoflower is coming along. Not every day you see a revegging auto motherplant that gave hundreds of seeds is standing next to her children. The sick little one in the front is a rescue attempt '' Royal ak''. Had a soil ph of 4.3 when i got her.

Must of been quite the job setting up that SCROG netting

Trying out my first outdoor grow with bag seed (Swazi/TK cross) before forking out some $$$ for 3x Black Diamond, Glookies & Platinum GSC beans to test out this season. Planted very late (April)

I've done a fair amount of reading into training autos for MAX yield with these short duration plants. There are loads of vids and documents covering this topic, but there seems to be conflicting opinion particularly in the newwer information when it comes to topping Autos. Some say topping shouldn't be used with autos, but others seem to think it is fine. Whats the deal? What methods have you tried? What has worked for you?

What's up everyone, hope you're all doing great! It's been a while since I've been active on here an this is why. About two months ago I finally took the big step to cut all ties and invest literally all of myself into starting up a business with a guy who's been wanting to do this for a while. I gave my current boss the word, put in my last months notice and this week is my last week before everything starts. This is nothing cannabis related so more detail on that later. I am not trying to tell you guys my lifes story so will try stick to the important stuff! To help give some perspective, I am 25 and I live in the first place I've been renting on my own. Without a fixed income and untill there's a good cash flow again to get things running everything has to be as cost effective as possible. I've been meeting with people and the best setup is about 10mins drive from my parents house, so I am moving back to my home town and living with the rents untill things are up and running. This is was not an easy desicion to make, but I am confident in a positive outcome. As for my grow- I will have the 1mx1m tent setup running, but had to take apart the veg boX I built, as there wont be space for it. (At first. hahah) I am busy harvesting at the moment, got the last plant of 4 hanging, other 3 are jarred up and being burped daily. Photos and info will be posted in my thread regarding the grow. Also took the 4 ladies out the veg box, put them in their 20L pots and moved into the tent. Now I have to move with all this hahah the new cannabis bill was just in time!! A few of you might know, in July I ordered a few things off digikey, some of the stock was out so I opted for a backorder, they told me 8 weeks however it arrived in 5 weeks. Got my box 25th of August. Now I just have to put it all together, but will do that once I'm finished moving. Last thing, I built a big hot house, for cacti spesifically, at my rents place which is still there and they've got a nice garden with lots of space. So will probably do some outdoor stuff again too!! The hot house isn't the best for cannabis, but will see what can be done! That's about it, I look forward to giving you all updates on the light build and new grow. I will be growing in a completely different climate so will be interesting to see how adjustment goes. Blessed people!

Was blessed with an update. Seems as if they are putting on weight.. The taller one is in her 13th week. Started flowering 4th of July if I am not mistaken.. This is her with a younger plant in front.. same pot. This is the Jetfuel.. probably another 6 weeks for her.

Really good question @GGG. Mainlining might level the canopy but then you will need to deal with the monster bush that will form as a result As @Bakstein420 suggests, super cropping will slow down the growth, level the canopy and increase yield to that branch without vastly increasing vegetation.

Hey bro! Yeah I rate you definitely could! I think it all works for the good of the plant though and the size of the colas. So there is definitely a sweet spot. Size vs number of colas. I’m going to start watching how I manage the space between colas. And opt for less colas depending on the size of the plant. And that could vary per strains... I’ve got 2 slurricane in 20l pots and they have arms reaching out all sides and I’m really just trying to manage and maintain these plants. And the BBG flowering now could have possibly done with less colas. Around 8. 1 plant has 8 and it’s performing the best. Also the smallest and most compact. But likely one of the heaviest. So that back cola will definitely stretch over at the back. However it would only be an issue if there were plants behind it. I think best to leave it. This is my advise.

Another quick photo update The outside ones want to show color Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Fuck the plant limit. Will just grow else where. Will pay the extra electricity.

Coincidentally I was asked the same in person by a new grower this week. I said to the kid that generally growers don't train autos. @AcidAlice did a fantastic job topping one of their autos in this thread. However notice how much that particular auto stretched in comparison to the others. Whether that is pure luck based on the phenotype or some divine voodoo, we don't know. The point is, what if the auto you top doesn't do that? I'm not sure how you would get out of that one if your auto starts to flower very shortly after you top. Definitely this I keep all my wacky training to my photoperiods.

Oh no it gets better. Heard a podcast of Jack stone or John stone from C3, him and his attorneys are going to try the DPC model court, he says he will not wait until the cops coming knocking on his door. Hope he isn't talking tough, really want to see what happens with that. The model definitely works from a community enrichment perspective. However registering a non-profit and going balls to the wall is sailing unchartered territory. They say you will only know how concrete clubs are until one lands up in court, which still hasn't happened yet. But that in itself makes you wonder why.

This is why I now think they should scrap the limits entirely. Just enforce the illegal trade and completely whitelist recreational growers.

Literally where I am right now I'll probably be adding that extra two weeks myself.

Yes... But no. The harvest will be tiny if anything after a month of reveg. So to get this right, you will need to leave a fair amount of your harvest on the plant, as well as plenty fan leaves if you hope to have a shot. And then the reveg process may take upwards of 2 months before you see decent normal growth again... And then you will need to veg it for a while again.... And only then you might come right with a decent 2nd harvest. My advice is plant another seed or few... Or learn how to take and care for cuttings. The damage to your initial harvest will not be worth your while bro

Is that plant seeded? To me it looks as if it could possibly still fatten up a bit - although always harvest based on the trichomes and their colouring. That is how you tell how ripe / mature it is.

Done

update on my grow...all doing well. Autoflower almost ready for chopping. Think another week maybe? Fan leaves starting to go yellow....mus i chopp it when its fully yellow? Or when all the trichomes are brownish?

Done

Yes, I understand. Very likely and possible, I believe the lower temps affects the metabolism of the plant? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

not the growing of the plant.. the ripening of the trichomes. Took them over 4 week to go to 50% amber from when the pistils dried up. In summer, takes 1 to max 2 weeks to reach the 50% stage.

I discussed it with someone before, they counted from after the stretch. I count from the time I switch to 12 hours of light and I think most count like this. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Also just started a few new seeds. 11/12 Geminated . Really looking forward to the Frisian Duck.

Thank you @CreX! Awesome community and forums. We are happy to be here We hope we can serve the community well

It is from the first night of 12/12...Once florigen levels reach the level needed to induce flowering.

Still to early? To determine sex?

Thanks for the advice @CreX , nope, first go at this, most I ever did before this was to top once. I have lowered the net and gently pulled through the colas and done the seperation: The net will be mainly for support then and not real scrog, I will try that next time maybe Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't think so, although light intensity would affect the yield. Not so much the flower duration. Based on my experience, seed breeders generally put a much shorter flowering time. Normally 9 to 12 weeks before most strains are ready for harvest. I don't even waste my time looking at their flowering duration. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Saw some reveging going on.. need her to get them in a dark spot from 6.. They grown outdoors but taken inside.. Extra light hours seem to be a problem early on this year..

Fuck yes. She's sitting tall at 100cm - Please ignore that she only has 7 mains, I wasn't paying attention and shit happened