Naughty.Psychonaut

It just doesn't exist man ..... the most well known growers and breeders who get to travel the world and are connected with the highest of cannabis networks have been spending YEARS looking for it, they can't find it. I promise you, a million% you're not going to find it through a simple post on a 420 forum.

Hi bud, hope all is well. There are so many extremely cheap seeds available on the market which are all usually F1 or 2's. Basically, unstable genetics. So you're kind of testing, or growing a "test batch". Those are for people who are starting to grow. Typically when new breeders start off, they make small seed batches and are focussed on locking in traits, so taking it to the F6 / IBL / BX. So they can't allow someone to pop 10 seeds and end up with only 1 plant or grow a couple plants, where they're still learning the ropes and not being able to get the plants to express their charactaristics properly. The point of a phenohunt is to get a good reading of all the charactaristics, so what would be the point if the plants aren't fully expressed Breeders usually know a few selected seasoned growers who they know are able to get the plant to express itself. Too many times a project has flopped, because everyone who "want to grow weed" want free seeds, then when time comes to plant there's 300+ excuses on why things haven't started, seeds end up being planted out of season with only one foot in the door, half assed approach, equipment and setup doesn't allow for proper conditions, because the grower is still learning and new to everything, no proper IPM regime.... just way too much that can risk the flop of a multi year project. People aren't passing off good seeds like that man.

Aaayyyy full circle moment hahah thanks for the hook up brother, they been making life too eazy for me. Shipping from US, don't they ask import tax? I'd be breathing through my ass about customs, they still confiscate seeds from time to time. How much is shipping from states?

You should contact these guys, they're looking for it and here you are hogging it for the past 30 years

Bud, you're saying a bunch of contradicting things. You think you stand a better chance of single handedly spreading the genetic out to the masses, yet you found the seed online through sensi seeds, a seed bank that's already internationally known. No one knows who you are, how are you going to make any impact there? How do you plan on doing this? Keeping it clone only and spreading it world wide? Cause you, as smart as you are with genetics, understand that you can even reverse BX it with itself and it'll still show you recessive genetics, since it's already a cross (skunk#1 is a phenotype that resulted from a cross breed, not a landrace) so you'll be opening up a whole pool of genetics. You can't spread it in seed form, then you're lying to the masses. Like you probably got lied to and decided to fall for it since you don't understand that buying the seed online deminishes your chances of it being "pure". You needed to buy a skunk#1 clone from the original growers for it to even be anything close to the actual skunk#1. Anyway, there exists a thing called genetic sequencing. People who work with these things never did any preservation on any cannabis genetics. In seed vaults such as the Svalbard Global Seed Vault you'll find some preserved cannabis landrace genetics from many many years ago. Seed vaults and actual groups of certified specialists with proper funding and proper facilities are working on this and it's not for protecting a specific cannabis strain, it's also not a backyard project. It's likely that you will struggle finding any captured data on the genetic sequence of the original skunk. The only people who ever had interest in it was stoners. They never did any genetic preservation. The best they did was share the clone between friends for a couple years till they got tired of it. People who still talk about "skunk#1" being the best weed ever are just stuck in the past. Old heads keep talking about it, but never have I ever seen or experienced anything better than the keeper plant I have here. It's likely just a memory being gassed up by nostalgia. Here's what the best weed really looked like back then - according to high times magazine Any of those the skunk you remember?? just give the old skunk hunt a rest man, it's really not that big of a deal, otherwise given the 30 years you been having that strain and it really was this unicorn status weed like you claim, best weed in history, you would have been in a very different position talking to me on a 420 forum in South Africa. Smoking one singular strain for life will make me quit smoking weed anyway, cause variety is the key to a good life. Someone that actually smokes weed will know that after a week of smoking the same stuff the magic wares off. It doesn't get you high anymore, smoke a different strain and you'll feel it again. Even if it's some mid grade stuff, smoking the absolute highest grade stuff for too long will ware off. It's really not worth it.

Are these people international? I see $ currency there. Hands down best clone bank in SA is DaggaFarmacy. Can't beat the prices, can't beat the variety, can't beat the quality, can't beat the accessibility. https://dagga.farm/

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Yeah man, I grow mostly indoors and clone my own stuff, always end up with an extra that I just pop outside. No matter the time of the year I just let the plant do its thing. This gives me great perspective on phenotypical expression and how each "genetic" has many different expressions. On the same note of my one keeper that does better for me when flowering in warmer temps, I got another plant that does the exact opposite - warmer temps stunts bud development, it's like the plant doesn't like heat at all. Buds will mature way too soon, resin heads all turn amber, strats throwing nanners, plant wants to finish. The good thing is, when I harvest her during winter she doesn't throw out too much purple, cause to me that would be a sign to dump the plant. I seriously can't stand purple buds swell up like crazy, get very nice calyx stacks and the terpenes are loud as fuuuug.

The thing with breeding is, there's no "one right way" to do it. It's all about what you're going after. There's no particular stud, this is how we end up with all the different "strains". If every breeder did the same thing and looked for the same traits we would all be smoking one singular strain. For females you obviously first go after the one that smokes the best, for males people use the "stem rub" method alot, where you simply rub your fingers on the stem and the one with the best smell wins. but that's still kinda random, cause good smell on stem doesn't always translate to strong viable pollen. Either way, it depends on what you're going for. A lot of breeders look into the first flowering male, this will lend a few traits of faster finishing times, but still some genetics finish flowering over 13+ weeks, it's obvious those are from both male and females that have longer flowering times. Though, you could argue about recessive genetics, cause as nature dictates - if you select a combination of what you would call perfect traits once you cross them the offspring will be a mix of prominent genetics and recessive genetics. A few of the plants may even look like runts, (not the strain, I mean runts of the litter) they wont look anything like the rest. They may be worse or they may even be better. Anyway, this is just some surface mumbo jumbo, not real breeding talk, but I bet you get the point. Don't look for anything specific, look for something you like.

Sorry bub, saying you got the original skunk #1, and also saying you bought it off a seed bank is two contradicting statements on opposite sides of the spectrum. It also gives indication of your level of understanding on genetics. If you just simply bought it online it means any random person can buy them? Which would be counterintuitive to anyone protecting the genetic. Can't make it available to the masses while also keeping it "pure". Who ever has it, if anyone, that person would know to keep it away from the masses, thus protecting it. Fact of the matter is, in cultivation the closest you'll get to it is a cross that closely resembles something like it. In habitat you may find a phenotype closer to the real thing, but who's gona do the work to travel to all the different places and hike hike countless mountains and search through millions of landraces? Never in a million years would a online seed bank just simply sell something like that. If I go onto online seed banks today every second seed bank is selling "skunk#1", so it's pretty obvious not all of them could be the true thing. So which one is? Most likely none of them. They all took shit that closely resembles it, cross that and call the new thing skunk#1. 100% all my money on the table sais if you buy all those "skunk#1" seeds and run them all, you'll end up with 100 different phenos. Indicating that they're all just crosses. 99.999999% of all modern cannabis genetics are al hybrids and polyhybrids. You can do the research, I can type away till my fingers fall off, but the info is out there.

Brother. I think your approach here is a bit willy nilly. What you're talking about is just a charactaristic. I understand hunting a specific strain, but in this case it doesn't make a lot of sense. Purple weed is not a specific strain. Even a plant that throws out only green buds can be manipulated to produce anthocyanins (the purple) through temperatures and what not. I've got a keeper cut here that I've been growing for years, if I harvest her during winter the buds are all purple, if I harvest her in summer the buds are all green. That's only scratching the surface, cause now we get into the scientific part of it. Alleles. Genetics. Purple buds can be genetic a genetic trait, where as some plants may never produce anthocyanins no matter what you do, some others may throw out purple without any manipulation. Now take that plant, produce seeds from it and you'll end up with a roughly 50/50 split between genetic codes. Here's a bit of a introduction to breeding and how purple/green is a selective trait when breeding genetics. This will be something called "Phenotypes". You will often hear seasoned growers talk about phenos and "clone only" varieties. Every time you pop a seed you get different phenotype. This means your "XYZ" strain from seed wont look the same as your buddies seed from the exact same strain. In fact, buy a pack of 10 seeds, pop them all and let them teach you about phenotypical expression. Now we get into plant plasticity. The ability of a plant to change it's phenotypical expressions in response to different environments. In a way it comes back to the plant being manipulated in order to get different expressions of the same genetic. This means, even if you do get the exact clone from the mother you're talking about, chances are great that you'll end up with something looking a bit different than what you where hoping for, cause you're growing in a completely different environment than the person who grew it you saw the photos of. Geographically different, environmentally different, hight above sea level differs, temp / humidity / time of year all these factor come into play. If you looking for something purple just buy a whole bunch of good seeds from reputable breeder of strains that are well known to throw out purple colour easily and work your way through them. You'll see what I'm talking about. Some aren't even gona go purple at all. Personally, I avoid any purple with a firey passion. Purple weed tastes horrible, ruins the terpene profile as 99,99% of weed that turns purple has a similar taste. It's something you learn through time, the same strains that turn purple, if you can manipulate them and keep them green you end up with a completely different bud, crazy full terpene profile. As anthocyanin is a compound on its own it's no wonder it has impact on the taste, if it's present to the eyes it'll be present to the taste buds when consuming. Purple weed is only for instagram / photos / bag appeal for sellers. It's a selling point, a gimmick.

Hi @RichardCPT hope you are well, just wana help you here, the males don't make seeds they only make pollen. They don't really have the potential of making seeds, only the females do once they have been pollenated by the pollen from the males. the male pollen sack looks like a ball before they open, but there's no seed. the only reason a female plant would make seeds is if it was pollenated by a male or turned hermie through bad genetics or stress and pollenated itself. the only reason to remove males or hermies is to avoid seeds, this is how we get seedless weed indoors. outdoors it's harder cause of stray pollen being able to travel in the wind.

I am sure you know about André De Ruyters book "Truth to Power"? Ex CEO of Eskom.... good read for anyone in SA. think that can make things very clear. you can say factories and businesses are down right now, but they wheren't during the rugby world cup? and many other times...... plus majority of corporate owned businesses don't shut down whole factories just to get through a day of christmas, they'll have 1 guy on stand by or the factory just pushes through. the whole world still works up to the 23rd and continues on the 27th only to take off on the 1st again for 1 day. how does that equal to a whole month without loadshedding? someone inside eskom can spin that shit and I'll smell rotten fish from miles away. Loadshedding started in 2007 as a temporary thing to give a gap in order to "fix the problem".... It's 2024 in 6 days, that gives us 16 - 17 years of loadshedding..... it hasn't been constant/consistent for all 17 years, we've had worse times and times with no loadshedding all through out. it's not a new thing to go through fluctuations. If it hasn't been clear as day, we're collectively too affraid to adress the problem directly, because the problem has our country in the palms of their hands and can do whatever they want right now. the problem is too big to fix, it's integrated into our society. The actual problems has been solved, but a new problem has emerged - management. New management doesn't have any grip on what they're doing, incompetence is running the power grid, problems of the previous mismanagement still exists, because of the current inconpetence not being able to focus on the the problem which is in itself the incompetence of the management. So they're literally just playing with the buttons. SA is in deeeeeeeeeep financial shit, so wherever our government can funnel money they will, trying to make it seem like they're working on the problem, but in reality they steal the money and loadshedding presists. It's just an easy gimmick for the fools running the show. They don't give a single shit about loadshedding, cause they're not affected by it. That's how it's going to be for as long as we accept the "ancestral cultural richness" of the indiginous people that refuses any form constructive criticism.

Hi brother, that spring water, orgasoilux and microbe mix you got going is good as gold!! those ph up and ph down stuff can upset a organic system. microbes are what keeps your organic system performing well, the ph up and down stuff will destroy microbes. the spring water is loaded with beneficial microbes so just keep at it with the spring water. orgasoilux works nice for plants that's a bit bigger, can sometimes be a little hot for younger plants.

@king kong If I am understanding you, you wana be able to tell before they go into flower. Only way to do that is lab testing. otherwise you gotta wait till the plant expresses it physically so you can just tell like in the photos Bos showed, will be easy to tell them apart. trick is to get them before the male flowers open and pollenate your females. there is about a 1 to 2 week window, depending on genetics and conditions from when a male flower is clearly visible till it opens and releases pollen. so you gotta make sure you get them in the first few days of forming.