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Growth in veg is going well, all healthy plants and the training is even and flat for the most part. I will soon add in the first net to act as the initial spreader and leveler of the canopy. At that point I think I will start looking into flipping.

In my last grow I flipped around here already and after harvest I felt I could have used a little bit more height in the space for some fatter buds and maybe less canopy. I got a few more pocorn nugs than expected so I would like to reduce that on this run. 

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Harvest update, the Organic Tent™ yielded 168g total between the four plants. 

Growing naturally I yielded roughly 37g per plant. With the new growing technique I managed 42g per plant... progress? I don't know. I think I need to try the same manifold again, but bigger plants. 

What a coincidence! That's exactly what I am going to do with my autopots in the big tent! 😝

Watch this space. 

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13 minutes ago, Ill_Evan said:

Harvest update, the Organic Tent™ yielded 168g total between the four plants. 

Growing naturally I yielded roughly 37g per plant. With the new growing technique I managed 42g per plant... progress? I don't know. I think I need to try the same manifold again, but bigger plants. 

What a coincidence! That's exactly what I am going to do with my autopots in the big tent! 😝

Watch this space. 

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This Is why I opted for the 1,2x0,6... I could grow 4 plants in there and average 40g per plant in half the space. 

Still not exactly happy with this yield though. I suppose that's also why bigger plants need bigger space. And a longer Veg period, of the uphill battle.

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Speaking of the big tent, I've gotten the first net installed to keep the initial canopy spread level. This time around I have also removed all the LST lines seeing as the first net will now do the majority of the LST and when I add the second net shortly after flip that will also help shape the final canopy. 

I want to really develop a solid canopy this time around, so I will let the canopy grow close to where the LEDs are sitting now and then flip. I am hoping for this round to be the yielder I have been looking for :-meditate

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Canopy is coming along. I've got the itch to hit the flip. I am about a week past when I would usually flip so far. I feel like I want to still push veg for a bit. The cold is making the plants a bit droopy during the morning but they perk up during the afternoon. In the past I've had to battle with sub 10C temps but now the temps don't dip more than 16C and my current max is 24C. Not ideal for veg to have such cold periods, but it won't be for much longer and the general growth seems to be coming along regardless. The canopy would probably look a bit more bushy if the leaves were praying up. The last few days the plants were looking a little pale so I've since raised my LED wattage to a total of 640W and the nutrient feed is at 1.8 EC. They are looking much greener today already. 

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Duuuude!!!! Organic tent harvest looks really good. Nice nugs. And the big tent also looks like its going to be a show.... beautiful.  I wanted to add..... what I have just notived with my next harvest coming up is that my amouny of fluff is less bit still there. I also wanted bigger nugs so I grew the plant bigger. I think the mistakes I mad preciously affects the size of my colas. Even though I have a shitload coming out this batch, the nug size isnt 100% what I want. This might be me comparing mine to a friends harvest which he uses HID lights. Anyway. So what I am going to try now is veg my plants alot bigger and top them way higher. I topped mine way too early and bushed out too much forcing me to flip.  Now I wait till I have atleast 30cm of straight stems before topping. So basically i want to veg them high, top them high and then start training on the net. This gives me more vegging time but less veg if you  catch my drift. Long stems then start branching out and I flip. So vegging will take longer, taller plants but less canopy so I can flip and grow into it. Hopefully giving me bigger nugs. I hope this makes sense. Basically I am trying to make bigger pathways to the nugs. Anyway. Great grow man. Look forward to every harvest.

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@The Grass Baas I feel you man, I'm also playing with the veg time with the big tent. I also want to focus on how thick the actual canopy will be too, because I also have a similar situation to you where I want bigger plants to produce bigger buds. My additional reasoning is to also keep an ideal and efficient canopy that doesn't draw away too much energy from the main nugs, but also so that the popcorn nugs as many as they might be, are also well developed. I want airy popcorn nugs to be at an absolute minimum. 

@ORGANinc. shap shap, I'm also thinking next week'ish for flip. 

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I spent the morning giving the big tent a trim and slight reposition of some branches under the net. I think I have got a good spread going. I am trying to sort out the slight fade I am experiencing with adjusting the feed. The new growth is at least looking good, I am going to let the plants fillup the gaps for the rest of veg and as soon as it looks like it's bounced back from the trim I will start the flip. Really looking forward to it!

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It's all fun and games growing powerful ganja and we all like to show off the final results but it's the hassles and struggles in the background that are the real juicy parts. 

This is where I tell you how I've been struggling my schlong off recently, but those of you who have kept up probably already have an idea of what my hassle has been. 

First number one bullshit is the fade and deficiencies I'm experiencing in my big tent. First thing I did was raise the EC from 0.7 - 1.4 EC. Autopots you can usually get away with adding a lower EC because the nutrients are being continuously fed to the plants so technically you do not need to match the recommended EC on the bottle. So naturally that was the first thing I tried because I thought that the EC was simply too low.

After a week of no change I decided it must be the medium I am using. I tested the pH at the reservoir and then the pH in the actual trays and I found that no matter the pH in the reservoirs, it would always be 0.3 pH higher in the trays. This made me think maybe the pH of the medium is too high and maybe the addition of a nutrient lock-out. Some of the medium is reused so this might also be a factor, although I did flush the medium thoroughly before using it again. Maybe I just messed it up somehow.

I flushed the pots and the Autopot system with Flashkleen solution and ran about 5L through the system and drained it. I then waited for the pots to dry (which was this morning) and I will now add nutrient solution starting at half strength sometime this afternoon once the nutrient solution has warmed up to room temperature. 

Another suspicion is an old bottle of Micro I was using. It was given to me by a friend who wasn't using it but I have a feeling it's too old or off, so I am completely removing that bottle specifically and replacing it with one of my new bottles. 

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Second number two bullshit is my veg tent. I had an entire round of clones just wreck itself which has set me back quite a bit, to the point that I have two empty tents chilling doing nothing that could have been close to flower by now. I am certain it was because it was too cold and too dry in my veg tent and they just couldn't take it. I decided then that I might as well get some fresh seeds and pop them along side the fresh clones I had taken after the first round of clones bombed out. I got 5 seed packs of Dinafem - Blueberry Cookies and OMG - Ripper Seeds. The company I bought from also provided some free seeds. I decided to pop all of them, because I just had this feeling...

Well, the clones worked out this time, all of them rooted and are currently in pots. That's a full 100% turnaround from the last round! 😆 wtf. The weed gods giveth, and they taketh. Speaking of taketh, only 4 OMG seeds popped. Yes, only 4 out of 15 seeds popped, and it was only the Ripper Seeds that popped. I don't know if I have to say this, but I think I am only going to purchase Ripper Seeds from now on. I will bow and become a whore of Ripper Seeds because frankly they have provided the most for me up until now, first with my most successful strain ZxP, and now with being the only seeds to pop in my time of need. 

So I am thinking of throwing the four OMG into the previous Organic Tent™ so they can do their thing, and then I might take two Wedding Cake and four ZxP and pop them into Autopots for the other empty tent. I am thinking of using 6 instead of 4 plants per 1.2m² because I feel that even in the big tent currently I could have fit in some more plants. 9 plants per 1.2m² was certainly a bit ridiculous but I think the 6 plants will be the sweet spot. 

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Dude this is unfortunate. I’m sure first prize would be to save the plants or salvage what can be salvaged. 
 

The medium is most probably become more and more alkaline, and the organic matter is not there to stabilise the ph. I noticed something after I did that experiment, the soil that was fed salts had the worst rotten eggs type of smell I’ve ever encountered, and I realised that is was basically a product of the salts breeding pathogens within the soil. 
 

I think the best thing you can do was to flush the hell out of the media, and then going forward, with a low om content, I would suggest inoculating with microbes on following waterings also add molasses and humic + fulvic, will assist with the lockout. 
 

maybe topdress some castings, about 2 cups each plant, run the auto pots with plain water ph’d to lowest levels. 
 

I would not risk feeding any other salts, maybe add some bio bizz blooms from middle towards the end. 
 

You want to build the organic matter back into the soil, and somehow counter the pathogens, alcohols and other undesirables in the soil, so not too much water either as that would also encourage an unfavourable environment.

also don’t be too stressed about feeding, there’s probably much nutrients still in that soil

good luck bru 👍🏻

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2 hours ago, Ill_Evan said:

@ORGANinc. thanks chief. I've got some Biobizz Acti Vera for the enzymes, some Root Juice for the humic and fulvic acids, and I believe Biobizz Grow is from beet extract which is essentially molasses. 

Nice man! Yeah I would hold back on the grow for now. But other stuff should help a lot, not sure if the grow is a bit too dense for the situation. All the best champ! 

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