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Howzit guys I started this adventure trying to find the cheapest and simplest way to grow some good bud. Unfortunatly from my personal experience. There isint really a cheap way. If you dont want to be frustrated and and have issues all the time and have a successfull grow to be proud of. U need to spend a decent amount of cash. Enjoy. . . Germination So i germinated 1 banana monkey seed from biltong and budz. Thursday night(9-07-2020) 13 hours in a shot glass. Then moved to a paper towel. And a plastic bag and left in darkness near my modem for warmth.(10-07-2020) .Until a taproot was visible. GROW setup Big shoutout to the forum for helping me get this grow box right. @CreX @Prom @Fridgedoor @StickyD420 @Bakstein420 @TheUltimateNoob @Ill_Evan @oldsandals @Totemic @ORGANinc. Full DIY vegbox 500x700 x 1000 high (double wall cardboard) 2 x side intake vents cutout with net coverings. 1 x 150w acdc cool white floodlight (Highly reccomended by @Crex. 1 x high power pc extractor fan. 2 x air circulation pc desk fans inside. 1 x chinese air humidifier 2 x white box stands to raise the pots to the light. Inside of the box was covered in foil. And then sprayed matt white for even light distribution. Grow medium and nutez. Freedom farms classic(green bag) Biobizz - gro- bloom-topmax Seagro 2 galon fabric pots Grow monitoring Hygrometer for temp and himidity Ph pen(ordered from wish) Tds pen(ordered from wish) No timer used. Temperature range Night low 17 degrees Day high 26 degrees. This grow box is solely for veging and providing the dark cycle for the plants. When flowering starts. Plants will be moved outside at specific times and back to dark at specific times. I will start of with 24/0 And then with the advise advise of the forum change my cycle. Will probably use the veg light to extend the daylight hours just a little bit. COSTING BREAKDOWN. 5 Seeds with delivery- R430 Nutrients biobizz nd seagro- R800 Syringe and jiffy starters- R20 Soil -R200 Fabric pot and sauser-R75 Pc extractor fan- free Double wall Cardboard box-R140 Foil- free Matt spray paint -R70 2 x circulation fans and cables-R120 Humidifier- R100 Hygrometer-R100 Veg light -R380 Extension cable and multiplug-R100 Ph pen+shipping -R150 Tds pen+ shipping - R140 Microscope+ shipping- R70 420 FORUM advise - FREE FREE FREE Total = R2895 More to follow. . .

Week 6 Added a 150w Hps in the corner of the tent. Just to get more of a yellow colour in there.

Hi guys, thought id start my own grow diary here Strains: Amnesia Haze (Anaconda) Master Kush Grand (Bulk Seed Bank) Grandpa Banner (Darkstar Genetics) Big thanks to @Master_G for the GDP and BB3 seeds. (Also have some Bruce Banner #3 for next time) Indoor or outdoor? Indoor The Grow Space 1800x900x500 stealth cabinet Growing medium Freedom Farms Premium Soil 10 liter fabric pots Nutrients and Supplements Blackstrap Molasses Compost Tea Lighting 150w LED dimmable 3500K from @Master_G 75W LED that will be added as a supplemental light later on Other equipment Inlet and exhaust fans (90m3/h) STC1000 temp controller Small fan heater Oscillating fan Space blankets and some other reflective sheeting i had on hand. Will add any additinal info as i go

Got a new work toy. A Flir MR176. Handy for more than just moisture detection. I'm happy with my indoor environment stats even with these cold fronts moving over.

Hey guys awildmeme here :) Hope to share some knowledge and grow the dankest of dank. Based in beautiful Cape Town. Ended up here being refered from Carbonite's growers thread ( PC forum not the best for discussing home grows ) . Currently doing my 1st grow . Did go balls deep with the tent and all and already busy converting my extra cupboard into a veg/propagation area. The bug has bitten and I hope to be here for a while with you guys.

Forgot to post this for you guys to see... Anyway, here they are! All the goodies from @Cannabist The last pic is a sneak peek at my latest setup, gonna be pushing some good production from now - just need to get the ball rolling. Thank you again to @420SA for the amazing opportunity. Look forward to competing next year!

Yeah man. Start a separate grow log. Make for easier information surfing.

I must have been doing autos wrong the whole time. But I think the true test is still to come. The smoke test.

@awildmeme Welcome bro... Just a few quick tips. That slow release fertilizer is not for cannabis grown in coco. It's going to cause issues down the line. Seedlings require food alot earlier in coco compared to soil. Once you see the 2nd set of true leaves the plants reserves will be close to being depleted. With regards to nutes the floraseries 3 part works well. You will still need to supplement calcium as there is not enough calcium in these nutes to keep the plant and the coco's buffering happy. The only calcium available locally that can serve that purpose correctly is greenhouse feeding company Calcium. It's expensive but should last you a few grows. Everything else will cause issues with too much N. If you on a budget hortimix 3 part can grow decent bud. None of this is to confuse you. Research coco and all the properties of it so you better equipped for the feeding. With regards to ph... GHE ph drops are excellent and very cheap. Don't buy a cheap ph pen, rather just the drops. Set your ph correctly everytime and you will have a happy garden all the time. Hope to have been of help...

Welcome brother, They mean in run off, how ever much you poor in feed wise, you get a percentage running out the pot at the bottom. Lekker setup and glad to have another on board

Noob question but 10-15% runoff meaning ? If I water with 1l there should drain about 100-150ml of water if I would guess ?

PM is a bane to any grower. There are many ways to deal with PM. From just removing the infected leaf, to using bicarb, vinegar etc. I personally always have neem in my IPM. The neem stimulates the plants immune system, increases resistance. For PM specifically though, I like spraying a bicarb solution onto the areas with good results. 1tsp dissolved in 1l. Add a drop or two of sunlight as surfactant and spray infected leaves top and bottom.

What a steep learning curve. But it's so awesome to visualize the minutest vapor atmospheric disturbances on the screen. Point the laser, and the sensors just collect all sorts of info.

It's been a cold, slow start, but got 8 out ten germinated.

Baby putin has risen Both of them look pretty much the same at this point.

Damn @TheUltimateNoob thank you so much . I spoke to a friend of mine that also grows and he uses the GHE as well . Thinking this will be the route I take . Splurged a bit hard this month on everything so payday needs to come for those nutes .

Greetings bro, and welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy your time here and we convince you to stay. Lol Okay, so your setup looks good and temps sound okay... Cfls are okay for seedlings and clones... You can pull off veg with a couple more cfl bulbs if you aren't planning on getting a veg light. With the addition of the 2:3:2 fert in your soil and the fact that seedlings should be good for the first 2 weeks without nutes... I'd say yeah you're safe for a couple weeks. It's just that you won't have a way of knowing how the general purpose affected the pH of the medium... Shouldn't be a train smash though if your water is alright. GHE has a pH test kit for like 80bucks and can be found at many gardening stores, and like all grow shops. I can help with your GHE feeding schedule. My medium is a mix of coco, Perlite and a bunch of amendments, but I found the feeding schedule that I'll attach is a good starting point to figure out your strength limits and then tweak it to your grow - keep pH in mind here as well once you start using it. I use the GHE Flora Tripack (Micro, Gro & Bloom) and nothing else... Works like a charm. The amendments in my medium allow it to hold water for a few days which means I don't have to water every day (as you would a normal coco/Perlite mix) so maybe someone else can help you there.

Dude so good to hear. Thanks a mill for that.....makes my little green thumb twitch with joy!!! even more reason I’m stressing!! All that love and this PM might steal it from me

Plants are looking fire though!

Ps, if you remove leaves or spray, or basically anything right now with regards to the mildew, turn off your fans, and use a wet cloth or something to cover the leave when removing to not send spores all over. Plus you're going to have to clean all fans, and walls and surfaces in there now, to be very sure and use peroxide and jik. Wash 2 or 3 times with new water each time. Afterwards, increase air circulation and more oscillating fans for the win.

@TheUltimateNoob Boss, your setup is insane and a life goal respect

Thank you for the warm welcome @Newbie_2020 @CreX @Bakstein420 @SkunkPharm Here is my grow tent . Its only 80x80x160 since I stay in a second floor flat and space is limited. I have converted 2 spare storage cupboards into propagation / early veg rooms ( Its easier for me to control the temp in one room early on ) I can keep my cupboard above 20 at all times since its in my room with my PC and a small heater. In my mind this will allow the smaller plants to thrive a bit better. Rest of my flat ( where the tent is ) can go down to 16 on a cold night so its not to bad. I just figured if not why not. Once the 3 seedlings are a bit bigger ill move the other CFL light to the other side so the light is a bit more concentrated . ( I know these lights wont grow the plants big ) All the plants in my cupboard is bag seeds so they will probably move to the outside balcony area if they are females . Will be adding some herbs outside to lower suspicion to a point. I am running 2 putins punch seeds in the tent and they are about a 5 days old ( will send some pics later ). Soil im using coco and perlite as my base ( Added some 2:3:2 all purpose in the groun when mixing just to let it set , should be good for the first 4 weeks or so ? Need to do a bit more reading before the firs 4 weeks regarding nutes . Gonna probably just get the GHP soft water 3 pack . To my noob knowledge it covers all bases. Using rain water at the moment to water the plants as im waiting on my PH pen. Gonna grab a swimming pool PH tester kit this afternoon just to last me till I get the PH pen. Overall looking to grow 2 in the tent and 2 - 3 small plants on the stoep

Signed too

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Hooo yaahh! Lol All the best man, I'm gonna go ahead and sub along. Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

My seats, in the upright position, tray table is stowed away. Ready for take off Capt

Again, it's only a pleasure to help. Which Lux app is that, looks like you can change some variables or Kelvin and such? On Migro YouTube channel, he takes a Apogee PAR meter and actually tests it side by side a different app from the store, he has the link to it and tests it at different Kelvin too for reference, and lays it on a graph, to get slightly closer to the actual PAR of your light. Might help... So far excellent write up brother and await the next to come Added:

nice man! sounds like a recipe for success

Ok. Will start a new grow diary

Started my own grow diary here

Chop it. Grow propper indoor.

Great stuff, thanx bro. I will be sure to keep that in consideration for the final veg stretch. Seems like that stretch will be quite intense.. Thanx for the tip on offsetting the growth. Much appreciated. I am excited to see the main cola exercise, sure it will look awesome with your tree tending skills!

I agree with totemic, start a grow diary. And take lots of pretty pictures

Spumoni going into the winter colors already.

Greetings 420 Fam. I've decided to put this thread together for the newbies to the indoor growing scene and anyone else that it may help. Anyway, it's for everyone to have a look at and hopefully it will give them a little bit of guidance when it comes to choosing the method of training that they want to use on their cannabis tree. Honestly, I wish someone broke it down for me when I started as it would've saved me a few months of experimenting by myself and accidentally coming across new methods somewhere random to try out. Anyway, here goes; Okay, so there's a lot to consider when you're aiming to increase your yield while not outgrowing the space you have available... Let's start with the simple stuff. My suggestion would be to research a bit on what you read here first before committing fully. Here's what you need to consider; - Acquiring good genetics (high yielding plant). Your bagseed flowers may look awesome, but most of the time it's genetics are a big twisted mess and stable genetics will yield you more bud per/m2. - Setting up a hydroponic system will get you a faster growth rate, but not necessarily a higher yield (although the time taken to get it would be shorter by a week or 2). - If you're using soil, you need a well mixed grow medium with enough drainage to ensure proper oxygen concentration in the root zone. - Use a good nutrient line if you aren't using living soil (it doesn't have to be expensive, it just has to work well). - Make sure your space isn't too big for your light (you may end up with airy, smaller buds or just a really slow growth rate if you ignore your limits here). - Ensure your plants get enough direct airflow to develop healthy, strong stems and so they receive ample fresh air. If you've considered of all of that, then you don't have much else to decide. LST works well, but it takes a lot of patience and when using it even with FIMing, but it isn't the most effective. This is because you still have to, in a way, let the plant grow normally and constantly train it to fit your space FIMing your tree will just give you more branches to train. The next 2 methods I'm going to mention are ways of making the plant grow into your space and it sort of has a predefined shape, which requires minimal training and even less once you decide to flower. Mainlining a tree requires less patience, and a bit of confidence when using this method because you will have to use some heavy HST with LST. I've used a slight variation of this on my last grow. I came out with about 204g of top shelf bud off a single tree (in a 70cm x 70cm tent). "Quadlining" has been coming up more recently and I've done this on a Microgrow I had running a while ago. You don't remove as much plant material as the previous method but the results are pretty similar. It requires slightly less time than Mainlining but also works well on maximizing yield... I was able to get 40g from 1sq ft off a single, small tree. Both these methods were effective at creating an even canopy with minimal LST and without the need of a net/trellis, but they do involve HST which means you will have recovery periods that add to your total length of the grow. I haven't tried any other methods, but from my understanding; ScrOG is one of the most effective at getting a maximum yield as this is a more controlled way of creating an even canopy and involves using a rigid screen through which you weave the tree as it grows. This makes maximum use of your space as you can decide what size grid to use and when you think its packed enough to flower. This method comes at the cost of a long veg time and regular maintenance, due to having to check which tops are growing pass the others and getting others in optimal positions. I'm not sure what other yield boosting techniques are commonly used but IMO; I think you're better off running your trees with the mainlining technique. Do some searching on Google to see how each of the methods work and see which one you'd feel comfortable doing. Everyone has their own preference I know this isn't a complete, thorough guide or like a how-to, but I hope it helps some of you. Feel free to also share the link with anyone that has a yield boosting question that can be answered by this post. If you're gonna add information to this thread, all I ask is that you please be sure of the methods you're posting. I've tried different methods and I've compiled this from my own experience. Peace [emoji1308] Happy Growing Sent from my POCOPHONE F1 using Tapatalk

*Trichome Porn* Lmao couldn't resist that. Anyway, not much to talk about folks, they're just looking super fire... These fuckers are frrrosty! Minimal maintenance since the last tie down and I'll feed her tomorrow... Its just a waiting game right now. Enjoy the pictures, cheers!

Jissy brother, what's up with that torn foil... Whahahah, just playing So good to see you know your stuff too and got some skills there man, and good thought involved. Like that you made the light run better and cooler probably, lasts longer and shows you like quality over quantity. I actually have a pretty good idea for you with regards to the 12v lights

I've found, a good soaking, fine mist till it drips off the plants all over. Dont miss a spot, then clean and bring them back inside.

Cheers mate. So 4weeks into flowering I’m good to go with neem. In a spray bottle all over the plants or just where I see the white devils dandruff?

This might help, you don't have to be on point, 10% difference won't make a difference Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

dude thats sweeeeet!

The author is not taking into account specially formulated soils, which generally has zero michorizzal input from the 'earth'.

i found the comments quite informative, not so much the article unfortunately his approach to myco's is not as simple as "you should already have so adding more is futile" i would consider this guys opinion if i was a much more experienced grower and i knew for a fact that my myco system is on point if you are in doubt - it seriously is one of the cheaper additives - just add some in - it will not hurt i know this is in the soil section. but mycos in coco and hydro is very important in my opinion and everyone should have a tub of the stuff laying around

Sorry guys the day job has just got me so busy at the moment. I have barely visited the forum in the past week. Closing date was 01/07/2020... that's 1st of July. Forgot to turn off the entries open tag, sorry about that We will get the nominees decided today hopefully and should have the winners for you near the end of the week

I'm not saying it is wrong to add salts. You could probably do both you must just know what you are doing to the microbes in your soil. But like @CreX is saying molasses will keep them alive. I am currently experimenting with adding wood ash to my water to see if a potassium boost late in flower does anything to the plants.

There is people that grow with salts in soil. But at lower doses than what they recomend. If you do have microbes in your soil and you feed salts the plant will stop producing sugars for them. The plant produces sugars to stimulate certain microbes to increase the size of the microbial colonies. Certain microbes breaks down phosphate ions to chelated phosphorus and others break down ammonia to chelated nitrogen. Only chelated ions can be absorbed by the plant. Once you start feeding already chelated ions (nutient salts) the plant stops regulating these microbial colonies and thus will die off as the do not have food. So decide which way you want to go.

Week 4 Dont water your plants with cold water. They go purple.

So here we go again! Here is a Pic that best describes my grow... And a few closeups. Things are getting interesting! Only a few more weeks before it's chop chop!!

Definitely, especially with lock down drought ,got sum decent swazi but it aint doing the job anymore lol, starting to look at my plants like smegol ..... he wants its , he needs its