BT First Indoor Grow

[Budtender]

Wassup 420 fam.

Started my first indoor grow about 2 weeks ago. Not much happening at the moment...

Strain- Original Orange Bud Auto from Biltong and Buds.

Medium- Freedom Farms Classic

Pot Size- ± 13 L

Grow Space- ± 50x50x 180cm

Lighting-  120w QB from @Master_G

Light schedule- 18/6  

Nutes- EHG Grow, Micro and Bloom

Prayer

Soaked seed for 12 hours then into jiffy pellet. Germination was slow and first true leaves were a bit on the yellow side. Not sure if its due to cold CPT weather or bad genetics. I'm just happy Stella got her groove back. Watering with only dechlorinated tapwater at pH 6 every 2-5 days 

Entering week 3 now and she's coming along nicely. 

Can I start feeding nutrients at this stage or should I wait another week or so? 

[SkunkPharm]

There is still plenty of nutrients in that soil. I would not feed it untill it starts flowering. And get some biobuzz bloom. That is all she will need. 

[Budtender]

2 minutes ago, SkunkPharm said:

There is still plenty of nutrients in that soil. I would not feed it untill it starts flowering. And get some biobuzz bloom. That is all she will need. 

@SkunkPharmGreat stuff. Thanks man. I was originally planning to grow in a hydro bubbler bucket thats when I got the EHG nutrients. Will anything bad happen if a person should use EHG nutes in organic soil? 

[SkunkPharm]

There is people that grow with salts in soil. But at lower doses than what they recomend. If you do have microbes in your soil and you feed salts the plant will stop producing sugars for them. The plant produces sugars to stimulate certain microbes to increase the size of the microbial colonies. Certain microbes breaks down phosphate ions to chelated phosphorus and others break down ammonia to chelated nitrogen. Only chelated ions can be absorbed by the plant. Once you start feeding already chelated ions (nutient salts) the plant stops regulating these microbial colonies and thus will die off as the do not have food.

So decide which way you want to go.

[Budtender]

1 hour ago, SkunkPharm said:

There is people that grow with salts in soil. But at lower doses than what they recomend. If you do have microbes in your soil and you feed salts the plant will stop producing sugars for them. The plant produces sugars to stimulate certain microbes to increase the size of the microbial colonies. Certain microbes breaks down phosphate ions to chelated phosphorus and others break down ammonia to chelated nitrogen. Only chelated ions can be absorbed by the plant. Once you start feeding already chelated ions (nutient salts) the plant stops regulating these microbial colonies and thus will die off as the do not have food.

So decide which way you want to go.

yo shot for the info bro sounds like feeding inorganic nutrient salts to soil will do more harm than good? I'm trying to keep it as natural as possible so will defs be going organic with this grow I reckon since plants are living , the soil it's in should be as well

[CreX]

I have had great results with salts in soil. 

But @SkunkPharmis right... The roots will stop producing carbs for your microbe population... But because it's soil, they will still stick around and continue breaking down whatever is left in the soil.

Some mollasses feeds will help keep them happy and busy helping your roots whenever they can

[SkunkPharm]

I'm not saying it is wrong to add salts. You could probably do both you must just know what you are doing to the microbes in your soil. But like @CreX is saying molasses will keep them alive. I am currently experimenting with adding wood ash to my water to see if a potassium boost late in flower does anything to the plants. 

[Totemic]

I run all my plants in organics, and if it's a plant for seeds I keep a full on organic approach. If it's a plant for bud, then I usually supplement MKP at an EC not really pushing past 0.8-1.0. From about 4 weeks, And then once again at 6 weeks.

[Budtender]

 

1 hour ago, SkunkPharm said:

I'm not saying it is wrong to add salts. You could probably do both you must just know what you are doing to the microbes in your soil. But like @CreX is saying molasses will keep them alive. I am currently experimenting with adding wood ash to my water to see if a potassium boost late in flower does anything to the plants. 

next level

 

2 hours ago, CreX said:

I have had great results with salts in soil. 

But @SkunkPharmis right... The roots will stop producing carbs for your microbe population... But because it's soil, they will still stick around and continue breaking down whatever is left in the soil.

Some mollasses feeds will help keep them happy and busy helping your roots whenever they can

 Makes total sense. Never would have thought about molasses. brilliant idea.  thanks man ! 

 

1 hour ago, Totemic said:

I run all my plants in organics, and if it's a plant for seeds I keep a full on organic approach. If it's a plant for bud, then I usually supplement MKP at EC not really pushing past 0.8-1.0. From about 4 weeks, And then once again at 6 weeks.

interesting approach you have there. different strokes for different folks. I like that.

[Budtender]

@CreX @SkunkPharm @TotemicGreat info gents shot a lot!  Im totally new to the growing game and the guys on this site has really helped me alot. 

 

Will keep the community posted on this grow.

 

For now all I can do is sit back and let her do her thing

[Budtender]

Howzit la familia

Quick update. 

So far so good. Following through on some solid advice from the more experienced growers around and keeping it simple.

Not much happening.  Still just giving dechlorinated water with Ph of 6.5 once or twice a week. 18

First leaves turning slightly yellow but otherwise she seems quite happy.

Older leaves have this weird curling thing going on. No idea what it might be but as far as I can see it's not affecting her negatively so I'm happy

What she looks like after 3 weeks.

More updates coming soon.

Shabba

[Burly]

16 hours ago, Budtender said:

Howzit la familia

Quick update. 

So far so good. Following through on some solid advice from the more experienced growers around and keeping it simple.

Not much happening.  Still just giving dechlorinated water with Ph of 6.5 once or twice a week. 18

First leaves turning slightly yellow but otherwise she seems quite happy.

Older leaves have this weird curling thing going on. No idea what it might be but as far as I can see it's not affecting her negatively so I'm happy

What she looks like after 3 weeks.

More updates coming soon.

Shabba

Sup Bud. 
 

shot for the thread. 
I have the same set up and questions. But this has helped. 
Also trying FF the green bag for the first time and I’m in veg with Humboldt Bubba and royal queen gorilla, they all looking great for now also have that weird leaf action on the ladies but new growth looks good, wonder what that is, possibly hight nitrogen?? 
 

are you sticking with GHE slat nutrients and supplementing with molasses? I still have about two weeks feed left in the FF soil or three so I can still move over to biobizz? I think that’s only a two part mix I don’t know what other additives to add to that though besides kelp? 
 

I normally use atami coco perlite which is great substrate but at 300 a bag it’s a bit prices hence the FF run, I should have maybe done a test on cheaper generics so getting this right when I start feeding is critical. Any further advise and feeding schedules would be great from the guys. 
as mentioned I use and have always used GHE with the Lukas formula and had great crops but with FF it sounds like that changes up everything. What to do oh what to do. 
 

is the biobizz route the simplest and easiest route to go growing in the FF green bag or can I just run lower feeds with GHE and add a bit of molasses, which I do in every grow anyway? 

[Burly]

8 minutes ago, Burly said:

Sup Bud. 
 

shot for the thread. 
I have the same set up and questions. But this has helped. 
Also trying FF the green bag for the first time and I’m in veg with Humboldt Bubba and royal queen gorilla, they all looking great for now also have that weird leaf action on the ladies but new growth looks good, wonder what that is, possibly hight nitrogen?? 
 

are you sticking with GHE slat nutrients and supplementing with molasses? I still have about two weeks feed left in the FF soil or three so I can still move over to biobizz? I think that’s only a two part mix I don’t know what other additives to add to that though besides kelp? 
 

I normally use atami coco perlite which is great substrate but at 300 a bag it’s a bit prices hence the FF run, I should have maybe done a test on cheaper generics so getting this right when I start feeding is critical. Any further advise and feeding schedules would be great from the guys. 
as mentioned I use and have always used GHE with the Lukas formula and had great crops but with FF it sounds like that changes up everything. What to do oh what to do. 
 

is the biobizz route the simplest and easiest route to go growing in the FF green bag or can I just run lower feeds with GHE and add a bit of molasses, which I do in every grow anyway? 

Some pics. 

[Burly]

On 7/2/2020 at 10:54 AM, Totemic said:

I run all my plants in organics, and if it's a plant for seeds I keep a full on organic approach. If it's a plant for bud, then I usually supplement MKP at an EC not really pushing past 0.8-1.0. From about 4 weeks, And then once again at 6 weeks.

@Totemic what organic feed are you using for your buds the normal FF green bag and biobizz?

[Burly]

And or any other supplements

[Totemic]

I build my own soils and they are rich, and if I do need to feed, then I have found Seagro works well with my soil. If I ever need a boost in flower, MKP is my go to.

 

Edited July 11, 2020 by Totemic

[Budtender]

@Burly yeah thanks man glad this thread could help amd great grow you have there!

This is my first grow and its an auto I'm trying to stick to the basics as much as I can. 

FF soils is the choice of many growers from the grow diaries I read and people I've spoken to. A lot of people say too "hot" for straight planting.

I honestly expected much more burn from the soil but its only those 2 leaves affected so I'm not stressing too much.

Like you I'm also suspecting high Nitrogen but I have only been giving Ph 6.5 water for 3 weeks and the soil should have some nutrients left.

I'm ditching the synthetic nutes and I'm going to start giving Biobizz bloom only for this grow once flowering starts. I will get some  Fish mix as another possible addition for future grows . Wanna see if I can get my hands on some mollasses this week and see what it does. 

 

Lots of guys around here have had great results with other nutes beside organic one's using FF soil. You can get great results either way but the choice is yours really bro.

Like @Totemic said,  MKP is his go to so thats also an option. I need to read up more on MKP though it seems like a good product to use.

Everyone has their own growing style I guess 

just my 2cents

On 7/11/2020 at 11:52 AM, Totemic said:

 

 

[Budtender]

Hey howzit guys 

Finally got some action and things are starting to smell Finishing week 6 going into week 7. Passing the halfway mark. 

I got my baby a new home. Previous space was too cold and higher risk of pests chowing her so I went and got a grow cab and modified it slightly. Hooked up some cheap fans to circulate and extract air and she seems happy. 

 

 

Otherwise, not much happened during the last few weeks. Still feeding just pH balanced water and keeping up the 18/6 light schedule. I'm seeing new growth looking normal and older leaves showing signs of deficiency or maybe light burn?  Will start feeding nutes soon. Have to get by with EHG nutes in pH balanced water according to lockdown budget.

Shoutout to@Master_G your lights are fire bro!!  Really efficient. Real quality material

 

 

Below are some recent pics...

please feel free to comment or question. Any advice welcome Peace

 

 

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[The_StonedTrooper]

40 minutes ago, Budtender said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dont know what you talking about officer

Sweet grow so far brother, and good progress

Edited July 30, 2020 by StickyD420

[Budtender]

3 hours ago, StickyD420 said:

Dont know what you talking about officer

Sweet grow so far brother, and good progress

Smell? what smell Mr Officer??? Hahahaha thanks alot man! My first grow I still have lots to learn bro

[Burly]

Well done dude, great start and maximum effort
Your ladies are looking sexy. Love the inventive set up you've put together. 

[Budtender]

4 hours ago, Burly said:

Well done dude, great start and maximum effort
Your ladies are looking sexy. Love the inventive set up you've put together. 

@Burly thanks bro. Much appreciated. Yeah these are tough times we're living in mate. I reckon the world needs good weed now more than ever lol

[Burly]

10 hours ago, Budtender said:

Hey howzit guys 

Finally got some action and things are starting to smell Finishing week 6 going into week 7. Passing the halfway mark. 

I got my baby a new home. Previous space was too cold and higher risk of pests chowing her so I went and got a grow cab and modified it slightly. Hooked up some cheap fans to circulate and extract air and she seems happy. 

 

 

Otherwise, not much happened during the last few weeks. Still feeding just pH balanced water and keeping up the 18/6 light schedule. I'm seeing new growth looking normal and older leaves showing signs of deficiency or maybe light burn?  Will start feeding nutes soon. Have to get by with EHG nutes in pH balanced water according to lockdown budget.

Shoutout to@Master_G your lights are fire bro!!  Really efficient. Real quality material

 

 

Below are some recent pics...

please feel free to comment or question. Any advice welcome Peace

 

 

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She really is looking good, those lights and gardener must be doing something right I was just wondering if you were going to do some LST to get more bud sites out that lady. It’s a pretty simple process of bending back the top coles and making light available to the lower branches. We could all give our take on the process, it’s just one of those many things each grower might and do do differently but really increases plant health and healed. It might be a tad to late to get the full benefits of LST but I’ve also run a few plants and only started training in the start of flowering, of course trining autos the earlier is always better. Maybe an idea for your next run. I always hit training early as possible with autos as defoliating might affect some strains bad and stunt growth. 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Burly

[Budtender]

2 minutes ago, Burly said:

She really is looking good, those lights and gardener must be doing something right I was just wondering if you were going to do some LST to get more bud sites out that lady. It’s a pretty simple process of bending back the top coles and making light available to the lower branches. We could all give our take on the process, it’s just one of those many things each grower might and do do differently but really increases plant health and healed. It might be a tad to late to get the full benefits of LST but I’ve also run a few plants and only started training in the start of flowering, of course trining autos the earlier is always better. Maybe an idea for your next run. 

Good looking out bru. Now that you mention it I do see alot of bigger leaves covering up smaller bud sites. LST is something I'm itching to try on her but I'm still too much of a noob (miaaauw)  It may be too late too start now but next run I'll be going with photo's and work on my training game seen some insane plant training around here man and I'm eager to get in the action

[The_StonedTrooper]

Take your time bro, no rush, feel it out and get the hang of the plant, you'll be doing yourself proud very soon.