ORGANinc.

13 minutes ago, Ill_Evan said:

Harvest update, the Organic Tent™ yielded 168g total between the four plants. 

Growing naturally I yielded roughly 37g per plant. With the new growing technique I managed 42g per plant... progress? I don't know. I think I need to try the same manifold again, but bigger plants. 

What a coincidence! That's exactly what I am going to do with my autopots in the big tent! 

Watch this space. 

This Is why I opted for the 1,2x0,6... I could grow 4 plants in there and average 40g per plant in half the space. 

Still not exactly happy with this yield though. I suppose that's also why bigger plants need bigger space. And a longer Veg period, of the uphill battle.

40 minutes ago, Prom said:

Wrong diode.. i wouldn't waste my money on a lm281 light.. way less efficient as the lm301. 301B or H.. forget the rest or if you don't want to go Samsung, choose same tech from a different producer.. just leave the old tech be.. is just old ^^ like HID systems

Yeah I can't disagree with you, however, These diodes will only ever be used at 75% power and that's for first 3/4 weeks of flower. Other than that, I run them 40/45%. yes they still less efficient. But at a 3rd of the price and concisely limited usage, they fit my purpose.  

36 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

I've seen guys try to flower under white CFLs I guess quality also becomes a factor, or no? 

you can veg in a flower setup, but you shouldn't flower in a veg setup and conveniently the flower setup will need to be bigger and also cost more, so skip what's needed for veg and only focus on flower. 

how about everything from the first post paired with the 125w LM281b for 9 dollars light? 

60 x 60 x 140 Tent = R950

125w Light = 9Dollar = R150 (probably pluss courier & import fees?)

Clip Fan = R380

Extractor = R495 

Total = R1975

That doesn't seem right, what am I missing? 

 

Board only, no driver, no heatsink, no dimmer, no import costs, probably looking closer to a R1400

This is informative for the new grower, but I really think anybody who is considering a budget should rid themselves of the fear and just go buy lights from alibaba, I need to buy new boards because one of them has an issue, and I’m picking up a lm281b 125w board only for 9 dollar, like wtf   

Anyway, that’s just my opinion, then tent size can be increased because of the money saved, more watts and more space, what else do you need. 

Just about 1 week in.

Both Gg#4 dried and smoked, happy with both, no massively noticeable differences, except experiment one was a bit rougher on the throat, may need to cure, also shorter high, but that could also come with longer cure. 

Gg #4 control

So the experiment has come to an end, just cut both sugar widows and they ended with very similar structure

Sugar widow control 

Sugar widow experiment (fed nutes)

I’m most impressed with the sugar widow strain, they both stole the show out of the lot I was growing, will update with yeilds.

so far it’s looking like experiment plant will be yielding higher 

11 hours ago, MissMayhem said:

Hey guys, so we started growing this lady in January. 

Outdoors, in a pot with soil, we were giving nutes up till about 3 weeks ago. Seagro. Its a jack herer X 

All was going well, stacking up nicely etc up till recently..

There seems to be foxtailing & every day the buds seems like they are getting airier, the leaves seem to be dying quicker than usual.

Im assuming its not getting enough sun, has anyone else experienced this?

would it be best to do an early harvest? Or any tips or ideas on how to supplement it?

Trichromes are clear-milky

I would cut the plant down. Looks good, well done

2 minutes ago, Darclinc said:

Any specific version of this product you can recommend? Also, how and when is this applied?

Ill let you in on a little bit of a secret, the best version available is gotta be Biocult Mycorrhizal from Hydroponic, it has a few specialized species that I've had my eye on for some time. I have not purchased it yet as I still have my trusty generic granular version from hydroponic. 

But a little fun fact, apparently people have done some microscope work on how the different grades of mycos spores populated and the powdered forms have the amazingly better hit rates. 

But why would that come as a surprise, we all know about surface area by now surely. 

Anyway its not cheap either. there are other more affordable granular version there too.   

15 minutes ago, Darclinc said:

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this do?

Ya then poor about 2l of water through the soil, plant some cover crops while you do that. What this will do is lower CEC in the soil, like how @Naughty.Psychonaut explains if the TDS is too high it definitely wont be beneficial to start a plant in that soil.

Now we know for a fact that which ever way the inconsistencies fall in Orgasoilux, none of that matters, it will always be Jam packed with nutrient, as it is a super nutrient dense soil.

Now when a soil oxides, and has many nutrients, they are more pronounces, because the soil is dry. For seeds and young plants, you want to cushion the initial nutrient blow, by doing what I suggested.

There are more advanced steps one can take before plant that make it even more favorable for the roots, like watering with humic and fulvic acids, they are not nutrient dense so don't think about it like food, but more like the master keys in gardening, they allow the chelation of literally hundreds of nutrients, basically enforcing everything to place nice, almost like the cops who direct traffic when the robots are broke. 

Then also innoculating with Mycorrhizal. This is scientifically proven to be the biggest dollar return investment a farmer can make at initial planting as the benefits are astronomical. As the roots grow a vast colony of beneficial fungi grow with it increasing root growth exponentially. 

Then even trace minerals can be added, but not with Orgasoilux, too much nutrient there.

Just a few to mention

3 minutes ago, Darclinc said:

Sure, it's a learning experience. What you've said above is all I'm going to be doing, pretty much. Well that, basic water PH correction and I also have these two bottles of nutrients, but don't intend to use them or buy anything else unless I need to do it.

My biggest concern is heat and light. I'm going to be moving them around for a bit, at least in the beginning to get them in the full sun as often as possible.

I don't want to micromanage everything, as a novice grower this would be stupid anyway as I have no XP to back it up. But I'd rather have some basic plan and basic stuff on hand. Besides, it sounds fun to do some of the 'sciency' stuff too, so why not?

Please bud don't let me put you off getting the tools and having the information, its all learning curves and it will always be helpful, I've just gotten to a stage where the information in my scenario, isnt super helpful. 

If you using Orgasoilux, Make sure to wet the soil thoroughly before planting. until a bit of runnoff comes out, I would say around 25% watering. No plants in there obviously, then wait till that soil is ready to plant, in about a week or so, shouldn't be like wet wet, but moist-ish, then only water when pots are light light.... GOODLUCK bud! 

8 hours ago, Ill_Evan said:

He's playing on Instagram with all the influencers 

Ahhh instagram, I do not dabble unfortunately, I got enough scrolling vises for now. 

Hello @CreX

time to come out from where ever you have been, okay thank you, see you soon 

2 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

never the less, a test is a test. no funny business  

as a intermediate grower I would rather give advice that I would have liked to recieve when I started out, because the advice that circulates a experienced growers conversation and a learners conversations is also two vastly different things.

like I said, I was left scratching my head way more taking advice from people who advocate the "just know better" notion. infact it was infuriating listening to advice that doesn't help at all. 

then scoop water from the dam?  

I think there is more than that to it? have you tried a cannabis plant in pure double grow potting soil? I've lost many many plants to generic potting soils. the biggest problem there is inconsistency. one bag has 0.3 EC, the next bag has 9.7 EC..... 

I wouldn't plant anything in generic potting soil ever. 

different strokes hey 

what would help, IF you wanted to go that route, is to have tools to test the soil to see what you need to do to it to get it in the right range. 

There will always be inconsistencies potting soils, Okay let me say craft cannabis soils

but the person who is growing his first plant doesn't even know where to start, let alone test EC and PH and what is all means. I think just those 2 things are far over many peoples heads is what im saying.

Its the grow stores fault, always insisting you need every nutrient on the shelf, the best thing any person could do when starting out, is just get some CRAFT cannabis soil and water the dam thing. Hone in on how the plant grows, how the colour of the plant changes as it grows, then figure out where the needs are developing, we all want to be ahead of the curb and have fast growing plants from the start, but this is always brings about the deficiencies caused by excess. A backlog of nutrients is always the problem. 

Its just like our social food culture, we are never needing when it come to food lol and that shit comes to bite us in the end, when we all but prematurely withering away, luckily nobody has to smoke us. 

I always try preach the same thing to any new grower, just water the plants. if they need something, they will show it, if not post some pics and we can recommend some food stuffs. 

If a new grower wants to grow successfully first time round. 

They can buy any potting soil and talborn green and red topdresses. No tools, no happy clappy dances. Just a winning formulae.

23 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

why did you need to test the soil  

Because i'm not happy with just good, where your ppm test tells you how many total dissolved solids, I want to know how much of each nutrient is available from each of those solids. 

29 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

lucky you guys with year round supply of rain water for all your plants! very few growers have that privilege 

would this be your advice to a new grower though? or are you just saying how things work for you? as this is clearly a thread started by a new grower wanting to learn how to do these things, cause no one ever mentioned use of rain water to our fellow newcomer till I mentioned tap water can be a problem, so all the while the standard was rain water? I must be living on Pluto! 

did you do this from the start and never had issues?

from testing my own rain water just collecting over night it's not always 0 PPM, I sometimes get between 0.1 - 1.0 EC, cause the rain collects shit on its way down. it hits the roof, runs through gutters, comes out with stuff in it. Sometimes cleaner than other times. Do you do anything to make sure the rain water is clean or you just collect and use without a care? 

During my first few months on the forum I was left scratching my head way more than I was after I just used the right tools just once.... because humans can be wrong sometimes, just like me, I can be wrong that's why I still use my tools 🛠  

Having the privilege or not, I decided after using tap water for sometime, more than a year and a half, that rain water would be better and from reading much literature, it is better, I slapped a small jojo under the pipe and zipp tied one of the 200micron filters ram filters so that the water doesn't have much debris. Plus I use blumats so I try to keep it clean, as this should come without mentioning. Things take time, mistake will always be made with new growers, getting everything right first time is almost impossible as we all know.

My advice to a new grower and the way things work for me are the same thing, I always say what works for me, and also what involves the least amount of effort for me, as I like my growing the be the least labor intensive. But that doesn't mean people will listen, people want to take the long way around, that's fine, we all did it at some point in time.

Then another thing we all know, is that there is more than 1 way to skin a cat. I'm only just learning that my way is not always the right way, even if the plants are happy, people can get happy plants with different methods. 

Also don't PPM anything. 

I've done a soil test twice. My CEC is always just under max after reamends  

2 minutes ago, ORGANinc. said:

I don't pH because I don't use much fertilizers, if any. 

Also using rainwater. My soil PH at the beginning of a run is always at a desirable 6,9 noting the higher nitrate levels for a decent start to veg. 

Having one fixed number for pH is not always correct, as the Ph in the rhizosphere generally changes throughout growth periods, ending in a more acidic ph. 

If ever I was forced into a corner and had to use tap water, I would use it without pH'ing it and just letting it sit for 24hour, because your will notice the pH drop to a suitable range without adding any chemicals, if you are fertilizing, you are on your own.

I have my style of growing, and my soil is more than 3 years old, with consistent love and care it gets better by day. 

 

I don't pH because I don't use much fertilizers, if any. 

Also using rainwater. My soil PH at the beginning of a run is always at a desirable 6,9 noting the higher nitrate levels for a decent start to veg. 

Having one fixed number for pH is not always correct, as the Ph in the rhizosphere generally changes throughout growth periods, ending in a more acidic ph. 

If ever I was forced into a corner and had to use tap water, I would use it without pH'ing it and just letting it sit for 24hour, because your will notice the pH drop to a suitable range without adding any chemicals, if you are fertilizing, you are on your own.

I have my style of growing, and my soil is more than 3 years old, with consistent love and care it gets better by day. 

Howzit Mense, 

oooow I have a good feeling about the present, I think you all do. We are uniting to find a position of prosperity in the current cannabis culture, and it’s amAzeballs I might add.

maybe the wool is over my eyes, but baaaa baaaa 

Alrighty, we have budrot, main bud on the sugar widow that was looking the best, so we chopped the kop and still fighting the good fight. Geez I don’t know how long it’s been, but maybe another week or so. I need to feed the other one again, I think I underfed the plant to be honest, anyway.

then the Wilsonxlhead and Wilsonxslurri pictured below, man this slurri cross is a dam winner, the sweetest smells I have ever, so glad to be rerunning her, then the Lhead cross, is like superman weed, you’ll be doing lots of shit around the house (pictured first by that distinct sativa structure)

then in order top to bottom crepes, lhxwilson, slurrixwilson, gg#4 (flower time!) 

All the best!

This plant is just raging man! Welldone, I don't see any issues, so good on you!

Oi oi! Welkom! 

Disclaimer - I'm not sure the source from where this article was created but this is ground breaking news as this is more progressive than Ive ever heard coming out of one of these committee meeting, this may have been at the end of the Portfolio committee meeting for public hearings, but its only coming out now after the latest and greatest already came out of the public comment reviews, this may have been a separate discussion with stakeholders and MPs, some real discussion it seems. Read below, article form Cannbiz New africa Brett hilton Barber.

State Concedes that Private Cannabis Clubs Might Be a Good Idea After All!

Senior State Advocate Sarel Robbertse has unwittingly provided ammunition for The Haze Club (THC) director Neil Liddell’s Cape High Court application to have Private Cannabis Clubs (PCC’s) declared legal once and for all. Lidell’s case comes up on Monday 6 June 2022, just days after Robbertse told Parliament that PCCs may be a valuable tool in allowing cannabis consumers who did not have access to private property to have an alternative mechanism.

Cannabis Bill Kicked into Touch – Will Resurface in Parliament in August

Senior State Law Advisor Sarel Robbertse has been given two and a half months to make the Cannabis for Private Purposes Bill (CPPB) fit for purpose. Parliament’s Justice and Correctional Services Portfolio Committee met on Tuesday to hear how the State would respond to private stakeholder input on the Bill, which in its current state is clearly unconstitutional . Robbertse’s rambling response did not instil confidence in the Committee, and although he asked for 10 days to get the legislation in order, Committee chair Bulelani Mgwanashe thought it best he take more time and present again in August 2022, after the Parliamentary recess. To what extent the new version of the Bill will incorporate the work done by the Private Sector Working Group’s (PSWG) legal team is at this stage unclear, but what is clear is that Friends of Hemp South Africa co-founder M Ayanda Bam, has played a major role behind the scenes in getting an over-arching cannabis regulatory framework developed that will eventually replace the CPPB.

Justice Department Says It’s Not the Right Authority to Regulate Cannabis

The Justice Department has finally admitted that it is not the right body to regulate cannabis. Robbertse was at pains to point out to MP’s that he was justified in taking a narrow view of the Prince Judgement and his job was to enable legislation that allowed consenting adults to consume cannabis in private. He wasn’t expecting to have to take on the rights of traditional growers and healers, public use by the Ras Tafari and other cultural communities, as well as Private Cannabis Clubs. All that, said Robbertse, was for other Government Departments to pass appropriate legislation.

Important note – it may actually be happening! Robbertse told the Committee in passing, that he was also working on amending the Drugs and Drug Trafficking Act, which industry stakeholders have identified as a major stumbling block to getting a cannabis economy going.

Big Issue Coming Up: Cannabis Legalization and Substance Abuse by Youth

One of the main issues Government is having to tackle is how it deals with kids, cannabis and the criminal justice system . There is evidence from abroad that decriminalization can lead to an increase in substance abuse amongst teenagers, and in South Africa it has to be taken into consideration that cannabis is the most widely-used illicit substance, and is a foundation ingredient in harder drugs like whoonga and nyaope. Portfolio committee MP Steve Swart is rightly raising alarm bells as to how cannabis legalization could harm kids.

On 5/27/2022 at 5:22 AM, herbforlife said:

Hi everyone, Im new and would like to introduce myself. My name is Ron and Im a learning grower & cannabis promoter who wants to contribute regularly to the 420 SA forums.

Hope to meet the mods and converse with other like minded individuals.

Cheers and happy growing!

Hello Ron! Nice to meet you, post your grows  
 

many people with much help around here and very ready to assist if needed

8 hours ago, Ill_Evan said:

6 more sleepies 

I really hope some concrete information comes from this in the name of progress ☝