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No, the plants don't monster crop on this. The florigen hormone levels reach a point after day 10-14, where plants actually need to go through a reveg cycle to reduce the Flowering hormone levels. A 5 day flip and back to vegging, the plant is still in veg mode and will continue to veg as normal, however the primordial calyx or balls will develop enough for you to see clearly

I also often flip to flower for just 4 or 5 days just to speed up the reveal. Going back to veg after only being in flower for 4 days slows absolutely nothing down. Plants in fact will respond quicker to Flowering once you do flip them again later

That looks like what the 10 days of flower would have done. Those are all calyxes from what I can see, and not balls if you are concerned. Just stick to the veg cycle until you are ready to flip

Yeah that was my main reasoning for crossing in the chocolate Gelato that is very compact... To reduce the stretch. I was only expecting Gelato terp profiles with the F2 seeds I've just harvested, but was surprised that the gelato terp profile dominates more frequently at the F1s already.

Things moving along swiftly, and hoping to see gender in a week or so.

Closing off this thread. 8 weeks, 5 weeks since pollination, and the girls got the chop, hanging to dry. While #1 certainly is the frostiest, she has a dirty gassy tone to her terpene profile, I bet she will smoke well. It is #6 that has the ice-cream terpene profile I'm after. She is also a yielder, while #2 has a dominant sour lemon vibe. Let's see how they turn out when dry. Looking forward to working with the F2s as soon as the seeds are dry in what is going to be an extensive hunt. Didn't really take any pics... Seeded bud isn't really photogenic This is #6 And just for the hell of it, a clone taken from #1, day 22 of flower, and already pollinated.... Not only rooted, but is developing seeds and starting her reveg process That concludes my first project for the year.

How much do you charge an execution by chair? Can people watch?

Once I've released seeds I have no control over who does what with them, and it doesn't bother me either. If anyone finds a plant from my stable that's worth spreading around then it's goal achieved. Getting good weed to the people.

Something must be up with your environment to do with light... Perhaps a light leak or the light cycle is too long? I'm trying to understand why the genetics are doing that in your space...

It's also important to remember that pheno expression is environmentally triggered. A prize pheno may grow spectacularly in my space, and the same pheno expresses different in the next tent based on the inputs

Thanks man. But you did an awesome job growing them!

I agree. Best value for money at the moment. Im only running under @Light It Up QBs, and can't complain at all

Day 7 isn't too far into flower that you are going to wait that long imo. They are still really in veg. I have clones taken from a 3 week into flower plant that I expect a long reveg of 7 to 10 weeks...

These babies also got a transplant today into 1L. Smaller of the twins and the one morphed phylotaxy removed.

It's been so dam cold the last week I've been in hibernation mode. Lovely weekend for gardening so I decided to pot these little ones up to 5L

Day 42

That is really odd. Hermie I could grasp but 4 males from a single what should be a fem seed

Just talking about fused seeds and polyembryonic seeds in my other thread. That looks like 4 or 5. Did you ever check if they each had their own root? First time I've seen this many

*Mini thread hijack Got mine today too. Thank you @Bay Seeds

Yeah I'm not saying genetic twins aren't possible. Any damage could occur to an ovule that could cause weird stress response growth. I also can't explain what that tidal wave that happens does when the pollen and ovule merge and create the embryo. At best I'm describing things and processes in a way I understand them, as we can't see what's actually happening on that microscopic level moment to moment.

Yeah, the two ovules are formed when the female strips her chromosomes in 2. Each representing one side of the 'x'. When both pistils are fertilized within that time period before what must be a chemical trigger to switch to seed development and each pollen grain reaches both ovules, they both develop and mostly share a single husk. Sometimes they don't, and just looking at the seed you can see its 2 seeds that are almost fused.

It's not a matter of a twin gene. It has to do with the physiology of the calyx, having two pistils a calyx, and an ovule per pistil. In a natural pollination environment the pollen is diluted in the air, and generally only one of the pistils might catch pollen. Once a calyx is pollinated at one pistil the other dies as the seed starts to develop. When you look at the extreme density of having a whole male plant in a 1m2 space, then twin come up often as practically every pistil is pollinated at once. Twins are rarely identical, and are in fact separate genetic expressions.

Yeah twins are common, and have come up in the F1s too. There is whorled phylotaxy among them. They have already fallen out of the race, while only the stronger of the twins will remain. I have a few related regular lines I'm working on all at once, advancing to the next generation. There is so little time in a year to fit in cycles that I don't have any to waste

Started 2 weeks ago. 5 sets of twins among them.