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So a taller / bigger plant does not equal higher yield? A bushier plant which is flatter could yield more as it will be able to get more light overall? Basically it can have a wider canopy to absorb more light? Being flatter will help keep the light output equal between the entire plant as opposed to just the main cola?

Hey all, So @Master_G and I were talking last night and he likes to raise his LED's very high to get his plants to stretch a bit. I have been keeping my LED's lower and in turn keeping the plants a bit bushier and shorter. Now, by letting the plants stretch a bit more you end up with a plant which is a bit bigger, if both plants are given the same amount veg time etc. How would this affect the yield of the plants though? Would getting a bit of stretch be recommended as the extra size from the plant will most likely lead to bigger yields or will the yields likely be similar? He also does not do any training where I am trying some LST, so that affects plant size too. I guess what I am getting at is, if you have two clones of the same size and you put them both under the same LED light - but the lights are at different heights. Therefore causing the one plant to stretch a bit more, everything else done the exact same which is more likely to yield more?

Yeah, extra light def affects the way a plant stretches. Turn up the power and you gotta move them higher obviously, but if you keep your lights at a certain distance it almost forces the plant to stay bushier. At least that's what's happened with my plants, not a bad thing but can be a bit tricky when working with them at times. Noted on the milk and peroxide, I must be careful with my secret jardin tent then too. Does your extraction run 24/7 or does it turn off with the lights? I keep mine running 24/7 and haven't really had issues with RH much.

Looks like you added a 2nd net, also lots of condensation inside the tent? I assume it's super cold outside and much warmer in the tent? Looking good though! Also how are your clones? Next time consider removing more leaves maybe, might help encourage it to root quicker.

In other words save that money and get something better. There are cheaper lights which will work for clones, if yiu need something for clones that is. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

I have 6x QB 288 v2's (the chinese clones of the HLG's) and they are great! Plenty of power, I do not run them at their max capacity though, no need to and they are more efficient when run at lower power. I have also not heard great things about Hydro Herb, heard of more than one forum member having issues with them - not to mention the original HLG products are not cheap.

Isn't that due to toxicity / nute burn? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Spray the diluated serum to combat Powdery Mildew or use fresh diluated milk for that rather?

Especially people in certain positions where them having a criminal record will ruin their career. Such as someone who works in law (lawyer) or finances (CFA or even a CA).

So I stumbled upon this: https://permies.com/t/54482/Homemade-Lactobacillus-Serum I am sorry but that does not sound safe to eat. Still curious to try it, although would need to find a one way valve to make some. I'll feed it to my plants but that is it.

@CreX by the sounds of things, we may start seeing milk being added to nutrients going forward. haha I am tempted to try add a bit of milk to my mix with the next feed, although it may react completely differently in soil.

If you speak to people buying indoor, I feel most would agree that R100/g is not a bad price. I personally know of friends and other people who pay more than R100/g when purchasing their weed and they are very happy to do so, I don't agree with it and have never paid R180/g for indoor. For me it's hard to justify, hence why I am growing. These friends on the other hand are happy to do so, I even know a girl who pays around R250 for "hydro". She only smokes hydro and sativa's. At the same time I know of people who buy cheap weed, like R15/g upto R30/g. It's not the best stuff obviously but it gets them stoned and they're happy as they cannot afford the better stuff. Some of the stuff around the R25 - R30/g has been pretty decent too on occasion. Some people are happy to spend high amounts of money on certain things, which mean something or have high importance to them while others wouldn't. A few good examples are: Computers Cellphones Cars Clothing Common items which are used every day. For some spending under R10k on a laptop / computer is a lot, for others that's considered cheap. For others who are "enthusiasts" or gamers, dropping R40k is easy and you can even spend more. Cellphones, I don't even feel I need to explain here but a new iPhone and the latest Samsung flagship are around the R20k mark I believe, thats a lot of money for a phone. I personally spent waaay less and am perfectly happy with my phone and I know of people who spend even less on their phones. My sister's phone cost jsut over R2k, a tenth of the latest flagship and she's super happy with it and it works great for her and her needs. Cars, they all kinda do the same things and get you places but just look on the roads and you quickly notice the contrast in priceing on cars. The luxury cars are common on the road (Audi, BMW, Merc) and they have an average price of R550k+ and then you look at the more expensive cars such as your Land Rovers, Jaguars, Jeeps, Porches and more expensive luxury cars (S3, RS3, AMG, M3, M4, Evoque) and these are all cars I see on a regular basis. Dare I say at least once a week. At the same time the road is filled with cheaper cars too, like your Kia's and Hyundai's from the low end i10 and Picanto to some of the pricier models. Clothing. You get people spending R500 on a Levi T-shirt, you get people spending R200 on a woolworths T-shrit and people spending R100 or less on a Mr Price / Jet T-shirt. Some people insist on branded clothing while others would rather buy what they like and feel is good quality and some people don't care and just need something so they are not naked in public. We can even bring food into the mix, buying your kellogs cereal vs the cheap Pick n Pay brand. The Checkers branded biscuits vs the bakers biscuits. Heck 1 ply vs 2 ply toilet paper. People consider certain things more important and therefore will rather spend more money on somethings than others. People also earn differently.

I completely get what you're saying, although once again not everybody wants to put in the time and effort or has the space. Take a business man who is constantly traveling and only home 3 nights a week as an example, or a single mom with 2 kids. In terms of value for money, it was worked out to around R100/g and that is not a bad price for indoor when others are selling indoor for R150+ and then selling their "hydro" for R250+ per gram. If / when dispensaries come to be in SA, it's a similar concept but more choice and no waiting and prices will most likely be higher than R100/g for good quality indoor. Obviously we cannot comment on the quality of THC's bud yet, I'd hope for it to be decent though. Growing weed vs buying high quality weed, generally it will always be cheaper to grow it than to buy it otherwise why are people selling it so cheap in the first place? Painting a room yourself vs hiring someone to paint it for you. This concept often applies to a lot of DIY things and it's often quite a bit cheaper to do it yourself than to have someone else do it for you - it may be convenient for them to do it for you but it comes at a premium. Growing weed is no different. If I were to do what THC are doing, yes I would do it differently but right now with them starting out I totally understand where they are coming from with regards to their options and how they are doing things. I may not fully agree with them, but I do understand them.

Once again it goes back to convenience. It's not a service for those who grow or want to grow. It's for the people who don't have space or time to grow or don't want the hassle of growing, they want the convenience of paying money and getting weed. All the worry of pests, pH, watering, load shedding etc. Etc. Is taken away from them and it seems a bit more safe than buying from some dealer - perhaps the person doesn't even have a dealer. Some granny who read cannabis can help her back pain and then heard about THC, it's a no brainer for her as she won't consider growing herself. Perhaps she's even in a wheel chair. I feel the idea is great, the execution and lack of transparency / info could be improved. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

I get why they want to flip to flower ASAP as a client isn't going to want to wait 4 or 5 months for some weed when they're paying each month. Who here would trust someone with 5 months of pay without receiving any weed, wait half a year for some weed. It's a bit much. Also if Yiu give members a chance to pick how long they want their plants to grow for, it becomes a nightmare to manage. Perhaps within time they might consider it if all goes well. Not to mention the longer you wait to harvest, the more that can go wrong. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk

I was going to say a dog, my cats have not tried to eat any of my plants but the one dog chomped some of the leaves.

They started to look happier after their transplant and watering. Yesterday I noticed one of the Charlottes Angel plants (I think) had some pistils already - they were feminized seeds so it was expected but did not expect to see that on such a small plant. I then decided it may be a good idea to start training the plants so I bent them over and used some metal hooks to keep them down. Today I noticed that two of the 4 plants responded very well, the 3rd was making do and the 4th did not look good or happy... I hope it does not die. It's one of my Charlottes Angel plants and those seeds were not cheap. I proceeded to mix the STS solution and then picked two plants to spray, I decided to go with both of the #2 plants. This included the sad looking Charlottes Angel, I figured I just need to keep it alive long enough to give me pollen and that I'd rather use the stronger plant to take the pollen and make me some seeds!! I took the picture after spraying them with some STS, so now we wait to see what happens. I will continue to spray the plants with the STS solution every 5 days until there are some big balls. These are also my first autoflowers I am attempting to grow, so hopefully I get the timing right. The next STS spray will be on Monday evening, I will time it better on Monday - do it around 30 minutes before the lights go off in the grow area.

I then decided I should probably move them to larger pots, now that I have a bit of extra space in my veg tent. So on the 21st I decided to repot them into their final fabric pots of 20L - as I started doing so I realized I had fucked up as the root ball had not developed properly to removing them from the pots was extremely difficult. I also neglected them a bit before re-potting as I just did not have time, so and they were very dry and unhappy. Next time I will rather put the auto's straight into their final fabric pots. I could not do this from the start due to a lack of space.

On the 2nd of June this is what I got! I had an issue with the 1 Daquari Lime seed, it just did not want to germinate. So I quickly reached for the last seed from the seedpack, soaked it and waited for it to germinate. I had the soil prepped for Daquari Lime #2, but there was no seed nor seedling inside the pot at this point in time. Fortunately the 3rd and final seed germinated and did so quickly. I recall having an issue when I planted it after it sprouted, two days went by and it did not surface yet, so I went digging for it and it was trying to grow sideways. I suspect I had planted it too deep. I also snapped a pic of the Charlottes Angel plants a bit later, on the 13th. I did not take any pics of the Daquari Lime's unfortunately.

Hey all, So when I first purchased seeds it sounded like a good idea to purchase some autoflowers - after learning a bit more, it wasn't the smartest idea but the autoflower seeds had been purchased. Since autoflowers are pointless to clone, I figured let me grow some out to get seeds from and perhaps use the autoflowers as fillers for my photoperiod grows. This journey started on the 29th June if I recall properly. I decided to start with the Dutch Passion CBD Auto Charlottes Angel , this strain has less than 1% THC and upto 15% CBD. Probably going to be the perfect strain for those who want the CBD without the high of the THC. I then decided to pop some Dutch Passion Auto Daquari Lime seeds as well, I think this was a day or two later. The pictures are of the Charlottes Angel seeds

So I trimmed the 3 plants in front, defoliated and cleaned them up quite a bit. Another Bruce Banner plant started showing it sex (the one to the left in the picture), it was a female and a bit larger so I did some LST again as I had left it to do it's own thing for a bit and then swapped it out in my tent. The smaller (to the right in the picture) Bruce Banner will be going to another forum member as he has the space to grow it out, unlike me. I also noticed that the smaller Bruce Banner wasn't too happy with the previous feed, nutes were a bit too strong so I will ease up on the nutes for the next feed and then after that I will probably do a flush before flipping to flower. I much prefer the Plant Matter fabric pots (lighter colour) over the Grow Guru fabric pots (black). Their sizing is a bit more convenient, not as wide but a bit taller.

Some of these perhaps for clones and even a bonsai mother plant: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/influx-linear/59956 Put it on some aluminium u-channels or something similar, even a 3mm sheet perhaps and run them at lower power. You can upscale it for a bigger grow too - use some larger strips and just add more strips. Alternatively you can consider purchasing some Chinese quantum boards or getting some local ones if the importing is a mission for you.

It would be overkill, a mother plant (bonsai) and some clones you could use a few LED strips.

Day 43 Sorry for the lack of update, I have since moved 6 of the plants to the tent for flowering, I culled 3 male plants and have 3 more plants which I am waiting for their sex to show. I also did an inoculation of some trichoderma, some BioInsek (fungus which works as a pesticide) and such. I also upped the feeding to 4ml/L and plants seem to have handled it pretty well and at this stage am looking at flipping over to flower within the next 2 weeks or so. The pictures were taken yesterday, I will try take some more pics tonight and add them as well. So far all is going well! The training has really helped keep my plants short, so space is currently not an issue at all.

I just edited my first post with a bit more info.