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12 hours ago, ORGANinc. said:

Those are some roots man, how long has it been rooting?

Thanks, I was also surprised when I picked up the cube. 

It will be 3 weeks by tomorrow. I took the dome off after 1 week and then start with the foliars. I diluted a couple of drops of dip and root into a glass and let them soak it up for 10 minutes before they go into the Rockwool.

For the bugs I use neem oil and garlic alternately. I have that Spinosad too, but I only use it if there are thrips around. 

Clones get two seperate sprays of kelpak 0.5 ml and amino mix 0.25 ml while they are rooting.

 The bigger plants have had a single spray of fish mix and that was 2 ml per litre. 

It says on the bag that you need to feed with your watering. Mix up some seeding strength ferts because you'll starve her with just plain water.

Some more stuff from an organic growers @ORGANinc.

https://www.growerssecret.com/blog/chloride-for-a-plants-healthier-moments

"More active, well fertilized plants have higher Cl-concentrations in their tissues. In general, tissue Cl- concentrations of <100 ppm, 100-500 ppm, and 500- 1000 ppm are considered deficient, intermediate, and toxic, respectively."

Malted barley and chlorine could be a good combination. "Chloride is required for optimal enzyme activity of amylase, asparagine synthetase, and ATPase."

12 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

How much of a difference does it make? Has anyone done a side by side?

I will do it. I can de chlorinate with vit c or humic acid. Which one would be better to use?

6 hours ago, Prom said:

Doesnt mean you cant grow in tap water... but chlorine toxicity is possible on cannabis plants

I am more concerned with the sodium chloride from the Coco bricks than the tap water. Some ferts contain chloride and I would avoid them for the same reason. Does anyone know what levels of chloride are toxic to cannabis?

If I don't rinse out the Coco (2.2 EC) then the plants can look terrible and take weeks of nurturing before they start to improve.

7 hours ago, Bos said:

Personally we try to grow as natural as possible, as organic as possible, so we use rainwater.

I did consider it, I'm in the city and the rain might be clean, but my roof isn't. 

3 hours ago, Adansonia digitata said:

. I was puzzled when he said that they are doing chlorine foliar applications on some of the fruit baring tree crops.  

It would be good to find out the ppm of Chlorine and how often they spray it.

23 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

what instrument you measure the chlorine ppm with? 

I got it from here. https://www.capetown.gov.za/Family and home/residential-utility-services/residential-water-and-sanitation-services/water-quality 

13 hours ago, ORGANinc. said:

why are you appropriating a chemical salt mentality with a living system.

I just used the website because it had a nice diagram and explanation. Chlorine is an essential micro nutrient, whether you are growing with or without chemical ferts.

13 hours ago, ORGANinc. said:

Chlorine/Flouride/Chloride in our tap water is put there for one purpose, and that is to make sure that our water is not contaminated or infested with bacteria,

Water is treated with UV and chlorinated to kill e coli, but the municipal supply still has other life in it. The e coli may die but the biofilm remains alive. Chlorine isn't a disinfectant that kills everything. 

13 hours ago, ORGANinc. said:

Allowing your water to sit for as long as possible does not rid the water completely of chlorine,

The most effective de-chlorinator is ascorbic acid. You wouldn't have to let the water sit at all. It works in an instant 

On 5/31/2021 at 6:21 PM, PsyCLown said:

I wonder if one would still get the benefits if you were to mix it into the medium

I use it in my mix too. I put it in before the soil cooks down. I use 2 tablespoons per 100 litre batch. One of the enzymes will help to make the lime release its calcium into an available form. There are many benefits to using malted barley. 

23 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

would you say it's just misinformation? 

I think it is. My Rockwool and Coco were soaked in tap waterThe clones are fed with tap water. 2 days after potting on 

@PsyCLown Sorry, I meant 8 ppm of chlorine. My tap water is 0.2 EC and 7.2 pH

In the malting house they germinate the seeds and then put in in an oven to halt the growth, before the tap root sprouts. It is loaded up to the gills with beneficial fungi and growth promoting enzymes.

I got it from a brew supply store, in Belville. Unfortunately they closed down last year, though any brewery supplier will have it. This one is malted for pilsner lager, but you could use any of them. 

@Naughty.Psychonaut https://www.cropnutrition.com/nutrient-knowledge/chlorine 

I think my water has 8 ppm, I don't let it stand overnight or adjust the pH. 

@Pantshello, thanks for the comments.

Humidity has been up to 80%, while it rains and I haven't watered these seedlings since transplant (about 10 days). That layer of fungi eventually forms a crust on top of the pot. The roots pull up and grow directly underneath the crust.

@Naughty.Psychonauthi, thanks for the reply. Chlorine is an essential nutrient for plants, they need it in tiny amounts. There simply isn't enough chlorine in tap water, to do any harm to the soil life. 

8 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

know it's a good thing seeing mycelium ontop of your soil, but you do know if the mold grows faster and is more dominant than the plant it will consume the plant aswell? 

These filaments start growing when I top dress with malted barley. From what I understand, the barley contains over 100 strains of beneficial fungi aswell as enzymes to support plant growth and suppress the harmful stuff like pythium.

I like your net that looks like its built to support a lot of weight.

On 5/23/2021 at 9:52 PM, The_StonedTrooper said:

I dont often post links, but here you go, good read.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.nutri-tech.com.au/silica-the-hidden-cost-of-chemicals/amp/

That website is full of good info. Every couple of years the author comes to sa to give courses on regenerative agriculture. 

 Water straight from the tap does no harm to soil biology. A bit of chlorine is a good thing.

I've trained all the girls in the big pots this weekI hadto raise the lights to fit the cages over the girlsThis one is growing nicelyAll the youngest ones are coming along.I clones the seed plants to identify their sexThe cheese pheno hunt is now in phase 2. All 3 big Buddha plants have now got some daughters.2 weeks since the last feed. 1 teaspoon of gypsum and one tablespoon of 5 3 5.2 out of 6 fems have made itmore pruning and trainingLush green and happy plants.

@nakes yes, you can add dry ammendments to your existing soil. The amounts will depend on what's already in your soil and the size of your pot. If the plants are really green then go easy with the nitrogen. Dolomite raises pH, only use a small amount. 

 Heres a list with the right proportion and components

 https://www.royalqueenseeds.nl/growing/334-vertafort-100-gram.html

6 hours ago, CreX said:

yea haha , it is a bit smelly!! ... but thats okay... its not like fire juice where you can smell it every time you walk into the room haha, its just a shortlived whiff

Fire juice is rank, but the plants love it. it's ingredients are fermented ostrich bones. I kicked over a bottle in the garden once and it stank out the place.

4 hours ago, nakes said:

so what yall think im better off buying nutes for flowering? i dont like the synthetic nutes

You can use any of the liquid feeds mentioned, or buy the pellets and granules at the garden centre. 

You can mix your own with your nitrogen from the pigeon, Bonemeal will add phosphate, dolomite lime for magnesium, gypsum for calcium and potassium sulphate to push the flowers along. 

Pigeon is one of the strongest manures. The smaller the animal, the hotter the poop. Talborne is good for soil indoors, if a little bit smelly. Ever time you water it in it releases a whiff of poop. It contains some bone meal and chicken poop. I use some soy meal granules called Naturado that doesn't smell and its decent for flowering indoors.

1 hour ago, Ill_Evan said:

diatomaceous earth

Thats a good call. Turbo grow has soluble Sillica too https://turbo-grow.co.za/composition-and-application/

@GGG a bit of Sunday MacGyver when you can't find any clear cups.

They look fantastic and  I hope you enjoy your reward for the efforts.

On 5/18/2021 at 8:08 AM, ThricomeInstituteStudent said:

currently balancing it at 22 degrees, but losing some humidity due to that. 

Maintain the right temps and don't worry about humidity. As your ladies grow and you water more then the humidity will also rise up.

Good luck with the house building, did you design a grow room into the plans? 

@Marzcanna hi there, that isn't something that I would try directly into the pots. Nettles contain a bit of sillica, or river sand for some long term benefit.

liquid silicon can be used as a foliar spray, but it's made from potassium sillicate, so its very strong alkaline. It will also give a good boost of available potassium that the foliage can absorb. Just go low and slow with the dose, if you are tempted.

Today the seedlings all got topped.

I spouted 6 out of 6. I put the between a damp tissue and put the them by the heater. Within 48 hours they all cracked and today I put them into pots of the seedling mix.

Choc Gelato, Palomino, Double Sunset and Tortoni. 

This week I managed to burn my 2 hash plant cuttings, so I scraped off the top dressing and just gave them plain water. Playing around with different soils for the cuttings. This one is in Best Green peat mossAll the young ones before I topped them.The 2 big ones are nearly ready to flip over to 12/12.A new mix for clones and seeds. 4 parts coco 2 parts Best Green and 1 part perlite.

2 hours ago, GGG said:

Soil I have used and tried
FF Premium classic green bag - best of all with no feeds first 4-6 weeks of veg then needs feeding from there , either teas or Biobiss . Second grow needs to be ammended .

Orgasoilux - from start to finish was good and just fed some microbes and a flower boost weekly.

FF Custom crafted Super Soil - This is the shit man , FF advises water with a 5,5-6ph and I achieve that by adding 1ml/L of the FF Probiotic and once a week it gets 3-5ml/L , in flower it's the same as above with the FF Fire Juice once a week , and that's it of you go. Very consistent outcome , and have grown second grows in the same soil with teas and FF Microlife .

Just Cannabis - this one is last on my list , it's just not consistent as the other 2.

Usually il take all old soil and chuck them in a big 250L drum and add Elemental Blend from Dirtyhands.inc( Jamie's Garden Shop ) and mix as advised, or more , and let it sit for a few weeks. No problems with this way also.


Using soil again depends on how big the plant in there was and how much nutrients is left at the end of a grow . When using a 15L pot that has a plant in that will yield 60-90g it's depleted mostly and il do the high end ammendmend with the Elemental Blend.

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Hello GGG, your soil looks like a winner and sounds simple to use. I want to nominate another brand too https://www.norsag.co.za/floragard.html

It will provide feed for around 4 weeks before feeding and can also be mixed with Coco and compost too. 

They look really lush and are growing fast. Do you fill the screen before you flip? And are there any drain holes in the bottom of your totes?