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Thanks for noticing … a little time and a little love, things happen. I kinda had to figure out the best way to approach it having very different types of plants in the same space but I’m happy so far. yep all fans on full speed ahead, if you can hear something resembling jet turbines in the area, no need to be alarmed, I’m just growing some weed

Week 4 for the DP and week 2 for the Chems, they both got their second top dress last week about, Temps are starting to rise. about 30 at the peak, so hopefully we can get through without any Pest/mold issues first 3 images is before the Defol, usually wait for 3 weeks or 4 but the bushyness was encouraging pm The Chems are on probably their 6th Defol, they make alot of leaves dammm. And on to the next couple keep it green growmies

Sure the aircon can raise ryhe temp, when the sun isn’t doing it’s job, in summer

I think he means lights which generate heat and then the co2 would be effective, temps need to be controlled from 30 - 34 degree when ppm is that high I think, who know anyway

Fuck yeahhhh! That’s the first thing I said when I saw this! Very nicely done bro!

Na but was the same breeder got from seeds

Sade mate! That ginger tea was lekke, sounds just like the one I had

Yes, I think that is a fair amount, I usually do that amount per 5L. If its a fulvic extract similar to that I made myself. I would think the strength would not even nearly be the same. Mine being weaker to some extent. Honestly, I just dissolved whole L tub of Fulvic powder in 2L distilled water. And its effective stuff at that dose. The liquids are tricky for this reason. But ya, if you worried about the Humic having a decent amount of potassium in it, then rightly so, all humic acids, well the cheap china stuff we get is Leonardite stone (so they say) extracted via chemical potassium extraction. So there is some potassium in it unfortunately. Its okay to have a lot in veg and end of flower, but still too much isn't great. In your case I think the advantage would outweigh the issue it could cause if mis-used. I think equal parts of each, around 3-5ml each per 5l will do good.

Week 3 and week 1, the chem ds are 2 weeks behind.

I hear you bro, once you burn your fingers, it’s never the same Let us see which one you got? I would just do recommended dose and seriously not be afraid of smashing it twice a week for the begining

Ya I understand your reasoning. If you want to your total EC to go down, it would not be the best idea to feed. I refer to the plants having an appearance of lockout, and that’s due to the excess as you say, so it goes all the way up the chain, but that is hindering the uptake of the final Elements like nitrogen, resulting in the lighter colour. Arden Anderson explained the phenomenon as a final Carbon deficiency and not any particular element deficiency, as it works back up the chain. So excess induced deficiencies are annoying because they cause other deficiencies. that’s why I recommend introducing some humic and fulvic, they do well in situations where there are imbalances, interms of nutrient density, the npk if humic and fulvics are seriously minuscule. To Move ppm up 10 or 20 points with humic sand fulvic would be a physical amount I would never apply, so the amounts, the very tip of a scalpels worth. Research is vast, but the conclusions are noteworthy. very low doses frequently, and frequently is weekly. Will give best results However, I only consider humic and fulvic useful in these situations. Other times, the plants must encourage humic substances to form by themselves.

Yeah, the liquid feeds are quite strong, so you are probably right that you have too much p and k growing in the same soil. I don't know if I said that, probably not me bud. I don't know much about biobizz range, I just know the ingredients and seen that chart a couple of times. Maybe have a look into some sort of Humic/fulvic product to couple with the fish. If you have something lying around. Think it will help with the imbalance if any. But yes, they are looking hungry for N,

Its difficult, when you find the less is more spot, you also find the area where there's not enough. hard to keep the levels where you want them especially when you eye balling it with organic inputs. What did you feed?

Thanks for the clarification, I have heard it has much less of a pest ipm type of affect after consecutive waterings and good to note that. aswell as the available silica to gain I will be combining my next top dress with some soil, and more amendment with diatoms and I’ll add the total topdress, I did it once before and the results were noticeable. thanks for your input

Yes I do use diatomaceous but I’m not looking at ultimately feeding it to the soil, as an amendment it serve a good purpose, but some say it can also be hard on the creepy crawley as it cuts them up very often. However it’s not the end of the world, just wouldn’t add more than I do already

How much do you add? I put malt barley as part of my top dress, but I’m thinking about doing much more.

Cheers man, ya I'm looking for some type of organic mineral amendment that I can add to the soil without altering the functionality of the soil and being harmful to the microbes. I have seen a product on Hydroponic but its really acidic, like 1ph, so im not too sure. Its called Eckosil.

What type of silica are you adding to your soil?

so the Chem D are somewhat ready to flower On 2 weeks with the dark Phoenix, and the Chem D are going to sleep for 12 hours from 6am today. they were suppose to go in on Sunday but I did a rough Defol so I decided to wait another 3 days. I think they are a lot happier now That’s about it for now, time for the exciting bit

Yes I agree with you that it will be beneficial in creating diversity and competition, but those sometimes and people have observed many instances of microbial collapse and that’s what I’m basically talking about, that stagnant time nothing happens in terms of plant growth because either the system is dead, or over loaded or both. also those times are usually when pathogens get the chance to take hold, you can have a massive diversity, many organism serving many purposes, but not all like the ones feeding your plants, some want to kill your plant but those are perfect dosages you got planned, and I really don’t think anything bad can happen that way.

Thanks for this @Bos Sounds very much like my suspicions. Obviously too much of anything is bad. I had similar outcome with red adzuki, mung and barley, but like you say, just a bit too much. I wanted to find out, did you inspect the roots and find an unhappy scenario there that looked to be Fusarium? At the end of the day, the most important carbohydrate going into the soil should be the root exudates. They are the most effective at releasing whatever the plant needs, via the microbiology, not only that, but it is also important for keeping microbiological colonies in check. and you only get that when plants are photosynthesizing at their peak.

I’m very much enjoying this full on approach. Love it bro. Look forward to seeing these plants rocket. the enzyme can be seen like that, you could also see them as organisms or bodies that carry out the life functions or processes, so they are another piece of the puzzles. they start the movement of simple compounds into more complex ones like amino and then into proteins, very important stuff. However most of this sst are energy free types of nutrient replacements so they are full amino and protein compound already, getting that dosage right is honestly the key. But I’m still yet to get that right lol The amount that comes from the initial process of seed starting is immense as you can imagine. So basically what you have are different types of more complete nitrogen compounds in action. This is the inception of life. Very many complex process taking place, so many locks become open etc. and micro nutrients just make those processes that much more efficient if they are there. Ya KNF is cool but like you said, it can go south easily. But you’ll learn how to use your nose. And if it’s even slightly offish. Chuck it. Just for me begs the question of anaerobic decomposition, I don’t know if it’s a long term solution, because of the type of microbial colonies that develope , but still don’t know enough to comment properly.

Either way, all this hard work is going to pay off nicely. @Naughty.Psychonaut Just be careful with all that SST. Its usually an over supply of many nutrients and enzymes in a system. I made a number of SST and every fresh application burnt the tips and they were small applications. Then I made a variety of Seed spouts and then I dried them to use as a top dress slow release source of enzyme, soil food nutrients. however, I think the variety was not the most effective. I started noticing some Gnats and other undesirable. I may have used too much. Especially when I worked it into the soil. Ended up discarding much of it in the compost pile. One of my first grow with totes bubble berry glue. I exclusively used malted barley teas. and I would put like a tsp of alfa alfa and kelp meal. Before the tea days when completely haywire. And honestly, those plants were thanking me in a big way come to think about it, all the spent malted barley also went into the top layer of the soil. That didn't turn out terribly. However, if there is too much of anything in a system, the balance of the good and bad bacteria/fungi might go out of wack. I think one of the biggest realizations in organic growing for me ever was that growing in 20l /40l or even 100l pots, planters or beds, is that all of the listed have the highest chance of running out of over all nutrients depending on the size of the plant. So in the right ratio, there's a massive need to put back what has been taken out. To think your soil in a 20l or 40l pot still has some gas and the plant is almost the same size of the pot about to get bigger, is just plain ignorant, which I was. These are all finite metrics, why wouldn't it apply to the nutrients available.

I don't think anybody ever got Tk that looked like that, Smoke report when you ready please

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