Totemic

4 minutes ago, Dank said:

He found a couple of killer phenos, dont want to talk for the brother, but dont worry, im sure 1000HillsNursery will drop some fire on the nation one day 

That male he found though 

Not something I've been monitoring but it does make sense that the bigger the area that can photosynthesis the quicker the perceived growth would be

28 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

So, if you don't mind me asking, here's what I would like to know. How long have you been doing this? When did you start taking cannabis growing serious and pushing your first harvest? How long did it take you to go from just growing to breeding? 

a guy I know been growing for 13 years and only now starting to think about breeding. he has done a few small breeding projects, but nothing really to write home about. 

Hey man, 

My history with plant breeding predates breeding cannabis, and I used to work with pepper plants. 

I started growing cannabis 2010, and by 2012 started tinkering with breeding, with limited success, as I was working with landrace bag seeds. 

By end 2013 though I had settled very seriously into breeding my Chocolope NL line, and spent a few years just working that one line, really getting to know it. I made a few other crosses in that time too, but they never got the attention the CNL did. 

Started out crossing the CNL line in 2018. 

Also started making feminized seeds in 2018, and applying what I've learnt over the years to other strains. 

Last year I decided that im taking it to another challenging level, to create a few poly hybrids to navigate what those lines will bring to possible backcrosses onto both my CNL and Chocolate Gelato lines. 

24 minutes ago, iGrowDagga said:

Can't be can it? 

Whorled Phylotaxy plants start showing the trait immediately, I think this plant is just a very v well done top, the "3rd" leave/branch only seems to be a damaged leaf, not a 3rd branch.. 

Quite right. This may be a mutation of sort, but more than likely damage of some sort to the growing tip. 

Whorled phylotaxy is a genetic mutation and is present in the embryo already, and will develop the whorl from the cotyledon leaves onwards. 

Let's talk stress testing. It's the one most important thing that many of the newer breeders aren't doing. Stress testing should be considered as part of your selection process. 

I stress test all my plants throughout their life cycle in an attempt to get them to hermi on me. Those plants that survive the stress I consider sexually stable. 

Stress testing should be an indoor endeavor. These plants really don't express their hermi nature easily outdoors. 

Intense light

All my plants are blasted with more light than they are comfortable with from germination

Interrupted dark

I Interrupt the dark cycle a few times during the first few weeks of Flowering. 

pH issues

This is one I don't really do as causing pH swings in soil is hard to come back from. Compared to coco/Hydro. 

Over feeding

Simply over feeding N, running the soil hot. 

Over/under watering

Self explanatory. I run my plants on a wet/dry cycle. When I say dry I mean the plant is wilting from dryness. 

My plants may look healthy and perfectly grown, but they are being grown at their uppermost limits. 

These are all the most common stresses that plants are likely to be exposed to by new growers or just in general. 

If you are breeding and you are not doing this with your plants, you are skipping a crucial step in eliminating hermi plants.

Yeah, I would approach these girls differently if I was pushing for max yield, although they'll probably still hit a good yield. 

To me it's important to illustrate that when you are pheno hunting, it's one thing to saturate a space with as many little plants as possible in tiny pots and push single colas on a stick of a stalk if you are only interested in a floral outcome.

To me pheno hunting is more a whole plant experience, with its natural expression fully expressed. 

Part of breeding is also being ruthless with plant selection. On this run only 2 males are still around, and 9 females, so 11 of the 25 left.

Any one or more of these girls could go hermi on me in the next few weeks, or show traits I'm not interested in. 

I may not even find a keeper this round. I may find a few. 

9 minutes ago, Prom said:

The Master shows the way.... sexy shit, bru! 

 

But why flower outside? So little sun, indoor you get best idea how well each develops buds. I could only judge the gelatos indoor. The winner in potency, taste and bud size only showed indoor how different she really is. 

I'm only interested in the more compact phenos for this F2 run. I may want to do a separate run on the stretched pheno group at a later time. 

They are females though and don't just want to kill them. They will simply take up too much space in the next 3 weeks.

Even these 9 are going to compete in no time flat. 

Day 1 of 12/12.

And we are down to 9. Removed the 4 taller phenos that were back row. They'll flower outdoors. 

The remaining 9 are +/- 40cm tall, and pushing the 14th node at 7 weeks. 

Decent canopy... Hope stretch doesn't get away from you. The zurple I ran responded well to the lst and that absorbed stretch. 

26 minutes ago, The_StonedTrooper said:

Hey brother, thanks for the like on my update, and have to say that your plants are looking so beautiful and healthy, big respect. 

Also your layout was so similar to mine I had to comment, haha.

Thanks man. All thanks to FF premium, biobizz, and light from @Light It Up

Really have not been spending too much time with them at all. They only get attention when they need water. 

Once I flip to flower and the phenos really start expressing is when I'm up in their face all day every day with the loupe lol 

Sunday IPM and defoliation day. All the fan leaves have been stripped except the top few in prep for flip. 

Real nice little Christmas tree structures.

Clones taken. 

Before

After

Not necessarily a mutation. But yeah I've had a few plants from different strains do that. Simple damage to the growing tip could have caused it

1 hour ago, SAgrower said:

I would like to try this bloom blend on my next grow but still need to read up on the ingredients. Im growing in living soil so just want to know if theres any of those ingredients that would be harmful to the microbes etc. Im mainly thinking about the MPK.

Thanks for sharing this knowledge, it makes it more fun and interesting growing this way, learning along the way.

In the doses you are giving the MPK I have not noticed damage to the micro herd, in both my own soil mix and on FF premium.

You are not getting the benefit of the P solubilizing micro organisms working though since the P you are providing is already plant available and can can be immediately taken up. 

While most mineral forms of P found in your rock dust ammendments are made available at an incredibly slow rate.

After recently getting indirect feedback from a grower who measures his input EC to his organics, found his EC reading was lower than usual so he bumped up the EC using only the bloom blend and probably gave 3 or 4 times the recommended dose. That quite simply locked his plants up. 

This bloom blend does not work on its own. You have to use a fish hydrolysate and mollases. This blend being partly salts, is meant to be used as follows:

1ml fish hydrolysate, 1ml molasses, and 1ml of this bloom blend per 1l of water, with every watering. From the 3rd week of flower. You also don't raise the dose as you go through peak Flowering. The dosage stays the same. 

It's a matter of constant micro fertigation to sustain a healthy plant.... Being over eager and over feeding does not mean a yield increase

4 minutes ago, SAgrower said:

24 minutes ago, Totemic said:

The standing trichomes that are developing

Thanks. Never knew males produced trichomes

Good breeding males push globular or standing trichomes... The latter being sought-after. 

Just now, SAgrower said:

2 hours ago, Totemic said:

When your male starts doing this

Can't wait to see his expression in a week or so more... 

Apologies for the kak question but what am I looking at here, besides it being a male? What is it in the picture that excites you?

The standing trichomes that are developing

7 minutes ago, Stefan said:

This looks a matter of intellectual property infringement and, unfortunately, unless you obtain a patent (plant variety rights) for your breeding, it would basically be impossible to claim infringement of intellectual property rights. PVRs are also difficult to obtain (although encouraged to do so) and requires thorough testing for a period of 2 years to determine the following:

Distinctness

A variety must be clearly distinguishable from any other existing variety by one or more characteristics.

Uniformity

Individual plants of the same variety must be sufficiently uniform in a range of key characteristics.

Stability

A plant variety is considered to be stable if it reproduces true to type from one generation to the next.

Plant Variety Rights are granted for a period of 25 years for all species except trees, vines and potatoes, which have a period of 30 years.

source: https://www.plantvarietyrights.org/plant-variety-rights.html

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It may be in your interest to browse through their strains to see whether this has been done before with other strains in which case social justice can be taken through means boycotting and whistle blowing, although, one must be careful not assume infringement as it may result in defamation and thereafter damages. 
 

 

Yeah man, you'll never see me register my crosses for plant rights... I want to share my stuff not protect it, or stop other people from growing them out, and working them further. 

It would just be a shame if someone bought those seeds expecting strong Thai sativa influence as I've bred in, and only getting a GSC that has been renamed. 

But this situation has reminded me of the importance of test data, and something that will become a norm with my breeding practices. 

The science is becoming accessible and I'll be using it

When your male starts doing this

Can't wait to see his expression in a week or so more... 

10 minutes ago, The_StonedTrooper said:

All I hear is,

Yes, we got your seeds from a local guy, and now we have our own team breeding them here, from those seeds bought (or the previous grow off perhaps)?

And there isn't anything you can do about it, legal jargon. 

That reply on it's own, screams guilt 

Whatever the case, doesn't matter much... If they actually have the right genetics there and it's mine, I hope they work magic with their line

With the legal changes happening world wide one after the other, the seed market is going to completely change over the next few years, and if breeders aren't adapting or scaling to meet ever increasing demand for affordable quality seed, then they may not be around for long. 

So I actually got a response to my mail from Sunwest. 

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6 weeks from seed today. These girls are just starting to explode. You can see a clear size difference between the tall and short phenos. I'll give then another week for the roots to settle, then I'll flip. 

Doesn't look locked out. Leaves look a clear green.

Adding silica to soil/organics has led me to many a pH mess and lockout

5 minutes ago, Marzcanna said:

What's your method on sex revealing? Do you let them grow & reveal sex normally, stress by training to force them to reveal sex early or do you flower early and than revert back to veg once you have identified sex and selected the ones you want? 

Just switch to a Flowering cycle for 4 days once the preflowers are visible, then back to veg.