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That's some solid Thai genetics coming through. Really looking like Chocolope NL... 

6 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

4 days is super fast... Dare I say a bit suspicious in a way, as if the plant had decided to start making sacs before you even sprayed. 

 

Lets see how it turns out. Perhaps you got lucky and the plant you sprayed responds very quickly. 

Whether with colloidal silver, STS, and even giberellic acid, It takes 14-21 days of preflower for the action of ethylene suppression to trigger the change, and then quite a few days more for those pollen sacs to grow and reach maturity. Generally 4-5 weeks from first spray to actual pollen. 

Been waiting weeks for these closeups

Push them as far as they need to go. Don't let the cutoff time force you to harvest... 

Why not just use STS. It's fail proof... 

Back crossing is when you cross an F3 for eg. Back to one of the parents. Not just any plant from the same F2 generation, but the exact parent plant(usually the male, but you can reverse backcross onto a female too) 

You'd do this because a trait(most likely recessive) has popped up in the F3 based on your male selections that you'd like to see more often in the next generation. 

The goal is to ensure you get a double copy of the gene expression to make it dominant. 

Backcrossing is a way of stabilizing and locking in traits. 

It's interesting to note that a backcross brings as much stability as 3 filial generations worth of selections. 

What makes breeding a challenge is that while you are trying to select for good traits, there are undesirable traits that need eliminating too, so a backcross does not translate to a good cross necessarily and selections will always be important.

3 minutes ago, John Stonedwell said:

Hey man. Speaking of local breeders. Have you ever worked with Motherland genetics and what do you think of their crosses and work?

I currently have the Purple Dosidos and Sunset Sherbet S1 seedlings going... 

I have not grown out any of motherlands crosses yet so can't comment. This season I'll be popping local beans from Garden Route Genetics, ZeroTreeOne, THC Tribe, and Bay Seeds

They all looking fire. You must recommend he tries other breeders too... There is so much fire out there coming from other breeders. Even I'm constantly hunting through many other lines alongside my own. What I have to offer is really not even a drop in a very large genetic pool

They looking good. That's not a deficiency... Some phenos do purple as they fade right from about the 7 week mark

Snails 

I don't do anything special with my clones. I do make my cuts just below a node under water. It probably doesn't make a difference but it's just something I do, make my cuts submerged in water and then into rooting powder(that's like 10 years old), and into the plugs. 

Vents all the way open on the dome from the beginning. I average roots from 10-14 days

That's going to be one huge plant! 

Hope you manage to get rid of the PM

5 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

I recall something similar with some of the Chocolopes last time.

Yeah man, those Thai sativa traits those. Genetic foxtailing is a sativa thing, and this is genetic rather than environmental foxtailing. 

@CreX I do hope she doesn't flower forever on you. Last comp you pushed the only male to peak Flowering... This year another unicorn among the crowd... 

That could be some Thai sativa dominant genes pulling through there... 

Is she healthy otherwise? 

So these girls and boy are just going into flower. 6 females left, and a male chosen from 8.

Not going to be many seeds from this run. More of a poke and prod to see overall F3 outcomes. 

Just about to get their stretch on... 

Still no gender...Been cold the last while. But they are still developing and filling the space wonderfully.

Welcome to the forum

That sucks man. I've had so many issues with timers in the past that I simply don't use them anymore, and I'm my plants timer. Means I need to be home at certain times daily without fail. 

No, the plants don't monster crop on this. The florigen hormone levels reach a point after day 10-14, where plants actually need to go through a reveg cycle to reduce the Flowering hormone levels. A 5 day flip and back to vegging, the plant is still in veg mode and will continue to veg as normal, however the primordial calyx or balls will develop enough for you to see clearly

3 minutes ago, The Grass Baas said:

Nice man. So far they're looking good. Really good.

What's the reason for flipping to check gender then revegging? I think you would save time just vegging them straight through. 

I also often flip to flower for just 4 or 5 days just to speed up the reveal. Going back to veg after only being in flower for 4 days slows absolutely nothing down. Plants in fact will respond quicker to Flowering once you do flip them again later

That looks like what the 10 days of flower would have done. Those are all calyxes from what I can see, and not balls if you are concerned. Just stick to the veg cycle until you are ready to flip

57 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

Looking good.
That crazy stretch happens to a lot of the in house strains I've grown, including the slurricane.

Keen to see the bud once it's fully developed.

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Yeah that was my main reasoning for crossing in the chocolate Gelato that is very compact... To reduce the stretch. I was only expecting Gelato terp profiles with the F2 seeds I've just harvested, but was surprised that the gelato terp profile dominates more frequently at the F1s already. 

Things moving along swiftly, and hoping to see gender in a week or so. 

Closing off this thread. 

8 weeks, 5 weeks since pollination, and the girls got the chop, hanging to dry. 

While #1 certainly is the frostiest, she has a dirty gassy tone to her terpene profile, I bet she will smoke well. It is #6 that has the ice-cream terpene profile I'm after. She is also a yielder, while #2 has a dominant sour lemon vibe. Let's see how they turn out when dry. 

Looking forward to working with the F2s as soon as the seeds are dry in what is going to be an extensive hunt.

Didn't really take any pics... Seeded bud isn't really photogenic

This is #6

And just for the hell of it, a clone taken from #1, day 22 of flower, and already pollinated.... Not only rooted, but is developing seeds and starting her reveg process

That concludes my first project for the year.