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First, Big thanks for taking the time to share some knowledge guys!

I had a bit of a wake up call yesterday on my way home from work, got home and started researching a bunch. realised I can do as much research as I want, but without complete understanding of what I need to be researching I am just shooting in the dark, ended up just sitting there thinking what I could have done that's causing this and the most obvious conclusion I could pull is that I over fed them as it's very clear earlier on in the thread.

jumped onto some research about toxifications and found what I was looking for.

Not a way to fix my problem, but a way to take the guessing out of the whole situation.

I needed to know exactly what's going on in my soil, so...

here is what I did

I poured some tap water and took some readings, came out at 9.0ph and 0.0 EC. brought the ph down to 5.8 and EC is right. Took the plant with the most stress, gave it 1L of this water, got runoff and the ph was steady at 5.9, but the EC gave a reading of "OR", had to check the users manual, it meant "Out of Range" and the range goes up to 9.9. The preferred EC for a 2 month old plant in organic soil is 0.3 to 1.2... Still wasn't sure where my soils EC was, cz I got the "OR" reading. I gave another 1L and took the readings of that runoff and EC was 9.3... so coming into range, but waaaaaayyy above where it needs to be. basically too many dissolved solids, too many parts per million. This all perfectly correlates to me giving waaaaay too much nutes before. Plant was overfed, soil was clogged with nutes, plants roots where getting scortched and this is causing all sorts of chaos. cause of the abundance of nutes the plant is getting burnt while also showing signs of deficiencies cause of the lock out caused by the toxicity. Carried on flushung till I hit the 1.3 EC mark and repeated the process with all of them.


Not even sure if what I did was right, but will see how they react over the next few days.

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13 hours ago, StickyD420 said:

 

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I like this chart, I have studied it to a T and always keep it close by. It's helped me a lot, but like I said before they got flushed with rain water then gave a very very small feed and they freaked out. so I already kinda knew the problem was bigger than just a deficiency or a burn from a spray. I have quite some experience with Neem and that was definitly not neem related. maybe the neem helped shrivel up the parts of the leaves that was already damaged, that's for certain.

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1 minute ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

I like this chart, I have studied it to a T and always keep it close by. It's helped me a lot, but like I said before they got flushed with rain water then gave a very very small feed and they freaked out. so I already kinda knew the problem was bigger than just a deficiency or a burn from a spray. I have quite some experience with Neem and that was definitly not neem related. maybe the neem helped shrivel up the parts of the leaves that was already damaged, that's for certain.

Nothing like finding what is wrong and being able to fix it, now you that much more experienced and knowledgeably. 

Super happy its sorted out though.

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Just now, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

no no, tap water is 9 when it comes out. I never give it to my plants like that. 

ph in the soil was 5.9

ec was 9.9 or maybe even higher, that's what caused the shit

I got you, just the observation of the high tap water only, and saw your EC was dangerously high, and you did well to catch it.

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update 

2 girls in the back is perking up a lot, one is the Super Lemon OG which I am excited about. 

2 Zkittles in front that took the worst beating just trying to get rid of those necrosed leaves

overall colour looking 100 times better and I can already see a lot of growth improvement on the 2 in the back.

with the flushing of the soil it got drenched and it's taking a good while for them to dry out, but once they do I will be giving 0.25ml/L of the BiobizzGrow and only 750ml to 1L per pot. 

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one that took the worst knock20210327_062936.thumb.jpg.dc8c6bdd80911a4e900ca37d69db7d81.jpg

second worse20210327_062947.thumb.jpg.bda8daa3abc4c89d625d4950de4b5f73.jpg

alright looking one20210327_063001.thumb.jpg.a4229ee651c5ecf2b9f7b2e0d446a83a.jpg

and here's the Super Lemon OG20210327_063036.thumb.jpg.ee225c1f668ca98cd0041b2f2b84da7e.jpg

 

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cleaned the tent a bit, cleared out, got some new trays and stands to create space between the material pots and floor,

also added a Banana Hammock clone I took from my previous grow, will attach a bud shot with the pic of the clone. Ethos Genetics

did some defo as they had some necrotic leaves

close to repot the 4 on the outsides into 30L

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blurp off20210331_065133.thumb.jpg.b399ccca350b549df448138ee0507e78.jpg

close ups: Sour Lemon OG20210331_065242.thumb.jpg.ebcfdaeae41f26a60a791d46a844d0e7.jpg

Zkittle #120210331_065226.thumb.jpg.c8e73e72a2add419786104d8cd80c4fd.jpg

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Zkittle #3 20210331_065328.thumb.jpg.10b6140d60849a667648124d3e515564.jpg

Banana Hammock20210331_065309.thumb.jpg.02a3ace17f51553587cb159bd0f13556.jpg20210331_065320.thumb.jpg.c4feb5dd9452e52e0ae70adcd8426862.jpg

buds of the banana hammock20201021_083601.thumb.jpg.a957fa0e6b3f056da04ede6295a74bc4.jpg20201021_083426.thumb.jpg.ccf3522b1515e44ed82dadc7a66694f2.jpg20201023_224630.thumb.jpg.827abbee4b3f3dbcf765899afcc6f8ca.jpg20201023_224914.thumb.jpg.ce9ac559db3c01d5a4c7ac4a17014ecf.jpg

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got home late last night with the urge to get busy, here's what I did. 

repot into 30L, FF green bag, mycoroot in the soil, DE top of the soil. watered with tap water. did some hst

took photos this morning20210407_063838.thumb.jpg.384ea8cefdba927be315a75a0d2ec953.jpg20210407_063820.thumb.jpg.5eeaf84cb9e85f976110d75ecd84fc71.jpg20210407_063742.thumb.jpg.52411bb69c5dc6f45b2ce5f539300fcd.jpg

blurp on. will give another week with this light for them them to settle and make some new growth then bringing in my the new light20210407_063638.thumb.jpg.8fb930027cc7a0f3cecda730ead07d79.jpg20210407_063646.thumb.jpg.c318adc82b536e878336833920d29df0.jpg

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it was time

I had enough of the blurple, I keep getting busy for like 5 min before remembering to switch it off, then I look out the tent and everythings dark and it's an instant headache. 

anyway, think the girls recovered well from the stress 

put the scrog net up, might do another layer depending on how they grow out in the next few weeks

put the flower light in, still on 18/6 maybe 3 weeks I'll flip to 12/12

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wire management here helps me sleep like a baby at night20210407_183659.thumb.jpg.1e0b8270be13f79e9788cfe531fd0ff3.jpg

 

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not much happening right now, still recovering from the HST and settling into their new pots, growth is rather slow. 

still on 18/6, *since repotting them I've been giving only dechloronated tap water ph down to 6.0, will give 0.5ml/L fishmix in days to come. 

picking a leaf here and there everytime I open the tent.

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26 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

@PsyCLown indeed. Ethos genetics. they have some nice stuff sometimes. 

Yeah, sometimes. Finding the right pheno from Ethos, in my experience, has proven to be quite a challenge. Seems one needs to purchase multiple packs of seeds.

 

A lot of what I have tried from Ethos has been a bit disappointing and just overhyped in general. Never found that keeper pheno unfortunately.

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sooooo, 

just like that some space opens up, been wanting to get a perpetual thing going for a while now. 

there's an earlier thread of mine where I built a veg box, since then I moved and didn't have space to put it back up. 

finally got space, but thought it's time to retire the box. still got all the parts so it's just put aside for now.

here she is :-stoned20210502_075144.thumb.jpg.00ea61be98dabe4ab36174684e738ad4.jpg20210502_075529.thumb.jpg.26602149d9ffe88e845e015f82a6ed82.jpg20210502_075459.thumb.jpg.e07467da0dd96b95ba2ae2fe3c2c85b4.jpg

so now this is veg area, got the little 50w flood light in there too for what it's worth20210502_075218.thumb.jpg.397c027afc3d74e556ec4d8a567b8ad5.jpg20210502_075226.thumb.jpg.c40b5649da91d1f68459ecf6dbca2dd8.jpg20210502_075247.thumb.jpg.0f2ae250f47855c9748a6a27e832993e.jpg

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2 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

sooooo, 

just like that some space opens up, been wanting to get a perpetual thing going for a while now. 

there's an earlier thread of mine where I built a veg box, since then I moved and didn't have space to put it back up. 

finally got space, but thought it's time to retire the box. still got all the parts so it's just put aside for now.

here she is :-stoned20210502_075144.thumb.jpg.00ea61be98dabe4ab36174684e738ad4.jpg20210502_075529.thumb.jpg.26602149d9ffe88e845e015f82a6ed82.jpg20210502_075459.thumb.jpg.e07467da0dd96b95ba2ae2fe3c2c85b4.jpg

so now this is veg area, got the little 50w flood light in there too for what it's worth20210502_075218.thumb.jpg.397c027afc3d74e556ec4d8a567b8ad5.jpg20210502_075226.thumb.jpg.c40b5649da91d1f68459ecf6dbca2dd8.jpg20210502_075247.thumb.jpg.0f2ae250f47855c9748a6a27e832993e.jpg

Nice man love the setup

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