PsyCLown

Without having equipment to test the lights, you'd need to try it and see what happens.

I know people have vegged with LED flood lights with good results. I doubt the plants will die, although I think they may stretch a bit more than usual and be a bit scrawny.

If it is your only option, go for it.

Are they in Coco or soil and what nutes are you giving them?
Do you PH your feed each time before feeding?
What sized pots are those? I am assuming not 20L pots if you're talking about repotting.

I personally would let them get a bit bigger before flipping, upto you though   Nothing wrong with flipping now either.

1 hour ago, Bennie said:

The proof is in the "Pudding".

I have a 4000k, 3000k and 3000k with red and uv. The one with the red and uv grows the best, but the company does not put it together well.

I'll make contact with @PsyCLownto see if he can hook me up.

Interesting, who make the 3 QB's which you have? Do you have any idea?

Fake diodes are not unheard of and could be the reason you are getting different experiences, also depends how many red and "uv" led's are on the board etc. etc.

Welcome to the forum! 

Nice man, so just recently flipped to flower basically? 

Aren't you scared cold fronts may kill the plants before they are mature and ready for harvest? 

Put your harvest around July sometime, roughly, if you've just flipped. 

They're looking good though!

What about LED strips or Quanum Boards?

You could make something happen within your budget if you were to look at buying and making your own LED strips... Especially if you can source some decent strips locally.

Otherwise you may need to look at Arrow or Digikey and bring in some.

Yeah man, will be keen to see how it compares to the 561C diodes in terms of what bud gets grown under them.

If we had a quantum sensor it would make a bit easier to measure and compare lights.

Mine are still stretching but I've got some serious pistils going!  

Keen to see further updates!

Ahh right, using GHE as well. Nice!

At what point do you plan on switching nutes over to flowering ratios? You going to base it on time or what will you look for in your plants?

Looking good man! I always get excited when I start to see lots of white pistils forming.

That is where I am at currently with my grow, I think I am around a week or two ahead of you in terms of when I flipped.

Do you do you nutes different for the stretching phase vs the flowering phase?

I'd wait for more / longer roots, also I prefer to put seedlings / cuttings into coco first and then into soil if using soil.

The coco is a bit lighter and fluffier than soil tends to be, helps give the plant a bit of a boost and get started and established while its still small and starting out.

So what type of light do you use to grow with?

Greetings.
I made this account specifically to ask you this, lol. 
Could I maybe message you to find out how you went about ordering these and getting them to SA? Also just a few other questions about the process. I've been wrecking my mind on getting these kits for a few months now and can't seem to decide. 

Happy 420 everyone!  

Let me quickly put on my tin foil hat

It's very easy and simple, I figured it out not too long ago... China has a secret lab where they were genetically modifying various coronavirus strains until this one was developed. At the same time the US of A were doing the same, hence why they were in China prior to the outbreak.

Trump released their strain of the virus and China released theirs too (hence why 2 strains were confirmed early on). China also decided to modify the 5G towers they have been developing and manufacturing to further assist in the spread of COVID-19 because we know that microwaves are bad and only good for heating of food and WiFi... because internet.

The governments are providing false stats to scare us and have decided to implement the lockdown to control all of us, they are busy developing vaccines which will either lead to us becoming autistic or allowing the government to control us (think mind control).

and that is that! lol

Hi buddy, welcome, I am also a new grower and have I am finishing up my first grow, I did a diy led setup which costed me around R2500 that produced a light that pulls 144 true watts that my plants are thriving in. I ordered the components( which is the Samsung led strips and a mean well driver to power them) there are many diy threads for lights as well that gives a comprehensive guide to building a monster light at a fraction of the cost compared to a commercially sold light, growopz also has some nice well prices options as well.

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Samsung LED LM301 B | 1 x QB288 V8 T

2 minutes ago, PeeWee said:

Ok thanks.

 

So I must buy a Full Spectrum LED Quantum Board QB288... I saw a 125 watt one for R2990.
 

Will that work for one plant in a 80x80X160 grow tent... then later I can add another light?

Thanks

Yeah, should be alright for a single plant in a smaller tent like that.

Do you know which LED's are on that Quantum Board?

You do not have to get a Quantum Board, you can try get some LED strips although most of the time with strips you need to build your own light.

You could also go HID but I personally prefer LED over HID.

Welcome!

There is lots of info on this forum, just read through the various threads and feel free to create your own if there is specific info which you require.

What exactly would you like to learn more about?

12 hours ago, Rybud said:

@Mambawana thanks for the advice. 
You are correct with your guesses. Trained eye. Ha ha 

I put 30g 232 fertilizer about a week ago, where would I be able to get MKP? 

Where are you based?

17 hours ago, PeeWee said:

Cool cool cool

Ol then I’ll pass on that CFL Route.

 

Say I want to grow one or two plants... what LED Full Spectrum must I buy? For +-2k... can pay a bit more.

 

Good Quality

Getting quality LED's locally for that price is difficult, even importing some quality stuff right now works out a bit pricey.

I saw @Cannabist was looking at doing some DIY LED kits, not sure on his pricing but that may be a suitable option.

Finding QB's for that price is difficult, with the new exchange rate its going to become even more of a challenge and probably extremely unlikely / near impossible. 

For your sized tent I'd say you'd at least want 2x QB288's so something a bit more powerful (more LED's) than that qb200 on the GrowOpz site. Both those lights are also out of stock. 

Maybe see if @Cannabist still has stock of his Samsung lights that he's willing to sell otherwise I'm not sure you'll find something worthwhile in your budget to be honest. 

8 minutes ago, trichomechaser said:

• Understanding Genetics/Breeders: Starting out I was under the impression GSC was GSC and Chemdawg was Chemdawg... I wish someone had explained the importance of breeder cuts used in the genetics. Having the same name, doesn't mean it's the same cut. I wish someone had told me that just because I see an awesome picture of a strain it doesn't mean that the breeder is good. 
• The death of Dutch Genetics: I wish someone had told me earlier how so many of the popular Dutch seed banks that built up a reputation in the 90s, were fucked by government back in the mid 2000s, and that they lost most of their genetics in the process. I wish someone had told me that most of those breeders started selling Spanish bulk genetics as their own to replace the cup winning strains from the 90s. The US breeders are years ahead of EU genetics now days (sans 1 or 2 high end breeders), there's a reason why the stuff being sold now have completely different terp profiles to what that same strain carried a few decades ago.
• IPMs: I started out thinking that you treat a pest when it's there. Preventative IPMs are so important.
• Explaining Phenotypes: I long lived with this idea that a strain was what one is after, and once you have the strain you're good. I wish I knew that the strain is really only such a small part of the grow. Finding the pheno that you want from that lineage is far more important than the strain itself. Just because my buddy grew a fire Spumoni, doesn't mean I'll get a good one if I pop a pack.

Some good advice this, although certainly not for everyone.

Some are happy just to get something to smoke and do not care much as to what it is they're smoking.

5 minutes ago, trichomechaser said:

This definitely appears to just be a marketing ploy for a product that in all likelihood is not very accurate. The real cost of mass spectrometers is painfully high - I don't trust anything in this products price range. There are products after products offering claims like these. I'd like to see these kinds of tools being marketed by having them have their tests put up against a large industry spectrometer and see how similar they are on a variety of samples.

I agree 100% with you!!

I am not against these tools, I do not mind them being a bit inaccurate although my bigger thing is the consistency and how inaccurate they actually are.

If they are able to give us a guideline or percentage as to how inaccurate the results may be and at least provide consistent results then they could be very useful indeed.

Welcome!

What did you order which you needed?

GT Hydro are now doing online orders and will ship it to you during the lockdown if need be.

On 4/14/2020 at 1:20 PM, PeeWee said:

Ok thanks.

I will then rather wait a bit and try again.

I have a few seeds.

 

Something like this better?

Going to grow small scale... but would like something proper for two plants.

 

Thanks for the advice.

These diodes are better and I feel they will do a better job than that other light from GT Hydro.

Ideally I'd suggest a Quantum board with 2x QB288's on it for 2 plants inside an 80 x 80 tent. @Ill_Evan actually has a setup like this, perhaps take a look at his grow diary to get an idea of how well it works.

I do not recommend ANY CFL as they are just extremely inefficient when it comes to growing cannabis.

To put it into perspective, a single 400w CFL will perform worse than the above QTM 150 LED light which only draws 75W. 

Also with CFL's, having 10x 10W CFL's vs 1x 100W makes a big difference. The 1x 100W will perform significantly better than 10x 10W, heck the 1x 100W will even perform better than 12x 10W.

If you do want to go for a CFL, you really need to get a single large one. I would recommend a minimum of 250W but you are really wasting your time, money and electricity. I personally would not use a CFL for anything more than seedlings and even then LED would still be better and more efficient. I would never purchase a CFL light for growing cannabis.

The difference between that CFL you have a picture of compared to the QTM 150 is like comparing an old Opel Corsa to a new Ford Focus ST with a 2L Turbo. Sure they both provide light (they both drive and get you places), but if it is a race taking a stock 1999 Opel Corsa to a race against a Focus ST is a waste of time.