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@420sake Hmm, so 40C for a few hours you rate is good - but that is with a vacuum?

 

What sort of temps and time duration should one look at if no vacuum is being used?

I haven't looked into winterising and so forth to be honest. Perhaps you could run me through that quickly?

I recall it being a method to clean your extract, but it used alcohol from what I recall?

 

How would one typically purge ethanol? Heat as well? Maybe I should give Ethanol a try and see how it turns out... I can leave it in a 38C water bath or 40C waterbath for however many hours are required.

GHE? I did not use any calmag and did not have any issues.

Grow was done in coco as well. Adding a bit of calmag won't be a problem though. I think it was 1g calmag to 10L as a maintenance dose?

 

Did you buffer your coco?

Yea, you don't have to bud wash. Doubt it'll kill you if you don't.

Although I prefer to. The bud certainly gets dirt and dust on it during a grow, so why not clean it.

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So attached are pics of the water from bucket 1, bucket 2 and bucket 3 after a bud wash on all my plants. This was indoors with air intake filters.

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So a thread necro, although I do not want to create a new thread for the same topic.

 

I am also trying to find a decent way to purge the butane from my dab without a vacuum chamber.

I am intrigued by using Ethanol as mentioned by @Green Leaf Organics although unsure of how one would do this exactly an then the best way to purge the Ethanol?

 

The next best thing is heat. I have the following at my disposal:

• Convection oven (preferably not)
• Normal oven (without a fan)
• Sous Vide device (to maintain an extremely accurate water temp)
• Stove

Now with the sous vide, I can set the temp to whatever I want and the device will keep it at that temp, accurate to +/- 0.2C

My question is what temp should one use and for how long is it recommended one keep the dab in the water bath for? I was thinking of putting all my dab into one of those silicone dab holders and putting that into the water... Perhaps in a zip lock bag with the top on to avoid any water from getting inside and possibly ruining my dab - although with the top on, will that cause issues with the butane not being able to escape properly?

 

Alternatively I could use an oven, but am concerned about the accuracy of the temps.

 

Hoping someone here can help. I recently did a BHO extract of a CBD plant, the end result was very gooey compared to the previous BHO extracts I have done. I also wanted to decarb it as I would like to make edibles with the CBD extract at some point, so I used the convection oven and it certainly got rid of quite a bit of butane and the fan in the convection oven I feel helped agitate the dab to help the butane escape. When I actually tried some of the dab on my dab rig, it was far smoother than my previous BHO extract which makes me think I need to try and purge more butane from my first extract as well where I just had the dab in a bowl on a waterbath.

So I see Futurama have Newport Butane, I purchased and got delivery today.

I reached out to Checkers and they have stores with stock and the stores without stock will be receiving stock.

 

So if anyone needs, there are options.

23 hours ago, GGG said:

Hi and welcome
FF Classic and FF F1 both need to be fed nutrients, but Classic can go a few weeks for veg as you said. Tbh from the readings I have done it seems that microbes doesn't do well or die off when using synthetic nutes and espesially when in flower and EC running high, but also read that if you keep EC just at about 1 it can be done, I'm also new to living organic soils. We here to learn from each other

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My thing is, I wish there were a way for me / us to easily test this ourselves though.

We're simply going based on what others have said.

 

I am not saying its wrong or not possible, just wish we could verify this ourselves. I imagine one would need to send some medium off to a lab to be tested. Not too sure.

Thanks for the reply.
I have been trying to post here but when I have to submit photo when I click to upload nothing happens. Doing my head in bud, will keep trying. Probably missing something simple.

Which browser are you using for interest sake?

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I use Tapatalk only for quick browsing and even then it is problematic- freezes and stops but that is Tapatalk itself. Uploading pics is even worse, resorted to going via the website.

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That's quite odd, I've been using it for years on various phones (I generally avoid the popular brands we get in SA and prefer the Chinese phones) and have never had that issue.

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Perhaps @420SA can check your permissions and make sure nothing is odd there.

As for why you get an error on Tapatalk, that doesn't make sense. Works great for me and many others. I assume you're on thr latest version etc?

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Isn't formula 1 coco with some amendments?
Not quite the same as their classic soil which is a bit closer to a living soil with microbes and such? I could be wrong though.

Curious as to what difference you'll notice, if any.

I personally would rather stick with coco, synthetic nutes and add things such as microbe inoculations (gotta ensure there is something in your medium for the microbes to breakdown though), mycorrhizal fungi, teas etc.

With coco being an inert medium, I believe the microbes won't care much for it, I have no way of proving this though. If one were to reuse coco from a grow, there'd be roots left in the coco still and I'd imagine that to suffice and not be a bad thing.

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Nice, that's Goos to know at least.

Why you using hooks? Just tie something around the wood to hang stuff.

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Very nice, how big is it?
My concern would be the weight the wooden frame can support.

Last thing you want is for it to come down and damage your plants and equipment.

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13 hours ago, 420SA said:

I thought it was maybe a local problem. Looks to be so.

Hope you not blasting with those alva cans?

Why not? What is wrong with the Alva Butane cans?

 

Checkers have the Newport Butane on the shelves usually.

I got Alva butane cans from Makro and found a few bottles of Newport at Checkers but not all checkers have stock.

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They likely had their info email address forward through to their personal Gmail account.

 

I recall one of the forum members receiving a light from them though, not sure how long ago that was though.

They're both D and not T ? If so, then I believe the 600D is a heavier material and as far as I understand more dense.

I stand to be corrected, although I envision it similar to thread count. A 400 thread count sheet vs an 800 thread count sheet for example. If made from the exact same material, the 800 thread count would also be heavier and contain more material.

That is pretty cool, so more like the cannabis cups hosted overseas?

Just because there is a website, does not make the company legit unfortunately.

 

Thanks for the headsup and please do keep us posted on the outcome (if it changes at all). Hopefully fellow members can avoid this online "store".

Waaait, so you need to use one of the two strains / seeds in order to enter?

 

"This will get you a complimentary 3 pack of the President Seeds feminized seeds or a 6 pack of Garden Route Genetics regular seeds of your choice which are to be grown for your entry"

In otherwords, it's similar to the grow offs we do on this forum, but you pay R500 and its only the end product they're interested in?

The carrots are the blumat system, the tropf ones specifically which is their dripper system.

Works pretty well and easy to fine tune. Zero leaks. Super simple system actually, only waters when the soil needs it as well.

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Whats your thoughts of adding some worms to the soil ?

I feel worms are good, when I was using the Organics Matter soil I found worms in my soil a few times.

So depending on which soil you're using, you may already have worms.

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I'm all for that synergy and symbiosis and in a garden it's certainly something one would like to try and achieve.

So microbes, trich, mycorrhizal fungi and water?
Then simply reuse the soil, don't even turn it or fluff it out?
You didn't start with packet soil though, you started with a soil you made yourself?

You don't oh and don't add any additional amendments along the way? Just keep recycling the soil grow after grow?

Obviously no flushing then either, although that's a different debate altogether.

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I still don't understand the reasoning and logic behind soil being less work as some people claim and I certainly disagree that soil / organic tastes different or better.

In my experience and comparisons, the difference is that the plants grew a bit slower in soil than they did in coco. The soil can be more forgiving in the sense that the plant can draw nutes from the soil if you are not providing enough via feeds such as BioBizz and that would not be the case for a hydro or coco grow.

You can certainly grow in coco with a proper set and forget method, I have just completed a grow as such. A big res for automatic watering. Mix nutes in the res and that is it - I literally take a visual look at the plants to make sure all looks good and do not touch anything unless I need to trim / train which you do in soil too.

In terms of mixing nutes, piss easy depending on the nutes you use. Measure out the nutes x amount of ml per L (same as BioBizz), add to the big res, maybe drop a little bit of ph down in and that is it. You follow the feeding chart on the nute bottle, like with BioBizz and that is it done. No need to over complicate things. It works.

 

I am certainly not against soil and organic grows, however I do feel a lot of the info and reasoning behind them is purely for marketing and placebo such as organic weed tastes better or is smoother or some shit like that. Based in my experience, that is certainly not the case. Growing in soil was also far more expensive and I feel that is why the companies are pushing people towards soil. I could probably get nutes and medium for 2 plants (20l pots each) for an entire grow for under R250 in terms of coco. A bottle of BioBizz alone is around or over that and 30L of soil is close to that.

 

You can grow great plants in soil, you can do so in hydro and coco as well. Equipment costs aside, hydro is probably the most cost effective growing method, followed by coco and then soil last.

If you can get a soil where you do not need to add any amendments or nutes and you can grow plants with the same vigor, yield and speed of coco or hydro. Then I would be interested and would consider soil again. I believe in the states there are some amazing and true living soils, although in SA we are lacking in that department. Perhaps if you were to make your own soil, but that is really tedious and time consuming and certainly far more difficult than going the coco or hydro route I feel.

Gotta wait 6 months or longer before you can even start using the soil I believe?