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1 hour ago, Smelly Joe said:

Heard about light stressing like you mentioned. But I don't have time for that.... I'll just grow it out and flower as usual 

Yeah me too. And all this cos I misread the LST... 

1 hour ago, Ill_Evan said:

Stressing your plant with your lights sounds outrageous  

@Mambawana tell us what you know about breeders doing it? Is it to produce a hermie and get seeds from the same plant or such?

I haven't done any breeding as yet so I can't say that I've personally done that. It's definitely not for seeds. I watched Kevin Jodrey series of interviews called 'meet the breeders'. (Check it out, it's awesome, you will know what I know about what the breeders have to say). Mean Gene mentioned that they would purposely mess with light cycles to fish out plants that are most susceptible to herming amongst many other stress tactics for pm etc when trying to stabilize a line. Sounds outrageous to you... but we talking about some of the pioneers of cannabis breeding here. And then it was also mentioned that the word stabilizing nowadays has 2 meanings. 1 being it's been stabilized to not herm and the other being the original use of the word where they stabilizing a strain to all grow the same and not have a lot of diversity.

19 hours ago, Za Weed Lover said:

Thanks, will try see if I cant cover and hang outside. There is a bit of over hang. 

I am not trying to fill the whole place up. I want to be consistently growing , its a personal grow . Would be too much flower for me. Dont want to grow that much anyway.

400g per light or combined? 

Well it's perfect that you don't want to try fill that space. Atleast you can have space for a cupboard or something that you can store your nutes and general growing related items. And space to move around and work on your plants. 400grams combined yield would be a good yield out of those lights. I know a lot of guys are using LEDs, maybe they can point you in the right direction So you can slowly upgrade in the future. You will win on the heat issue, on consumption or yield more with the same power draw.

3 hours ago, Smelly Joe said:

One of the reasons I do defoliation and light stress training. If they can't handle that then sorry it's time to move on. 

What's light stress training? Interrupting their light cycles like what breeders do or having the lights too close? 

28 minutes ago, Cheeezy said:

Hi again 

 

So... about to start week 6 of flower. 

 

I have been using general hydroponics flora series every other day. I have GHE rippen as well for late flowering phase. 

 

Plan is to flower for 8 weeks or so

1. What is late flowering phase? (Week 6-7?)
2. Can I use both general hydroponics Nutrients and rippen at the same time or must I stop with one to use the other?
3. Or must i alternate between the two ?
4. Non related but - Should I cut all the sugar leaves off and leave fan leaves so the bud all the feed given? (Will this cause harm?)

 

Don’t want to over feed in fear of nutrient lock and/or burn. 

 

I understand I must flush my cheese for the last week or 2 of flower before I cut?

 

thx in advance

 

Late flowering is strain dependant. If you buying your seeds then breeders  have information about time duration of that strain to give you a guideline.

So when your plant has stopped pushing out white hairs and the trichs are mostly cloudy you can stop nutes and use ripen on its OWN for a week and then just plain water to chop down. The instructions for the floraseries and ripen are on the bottles. Read it and follow it. 8-9week strain, I would start paying attention for the above from around day 50.

If you have enough light and air exchange you can go full strength and above safely for most strains. So based on that you have to adjust the ratios. 

And that question about cutting sugar leaves you need to forget it and never ask that again.(the only time you should be cutting sugar leaves is when you trimming your buds). Get more experience before doing any defoliation from midflower onwards. 

5 hours ago, MrB said:

So I landed up with an aphid invasion, when I was hoping for another 2 - 3 weeks and more amber trichomes. Decided to harvest before the aphid population exploded. All dried now, and curing. Made 2 joints from the sugar leaves and small buds so far... super smooth and herby, but unfortunately not that potent. Going to start with grow no.2 shortly, but got to get a grow tent and more potent lights first. 

B

Don't be sad, the sugar leaves and larfies aren't very potent without a cure. Jar them and wait atleast 2 weeks... you might be surprised...

Next round go for strains that finish early... 7-8weeks. You have some experience under your belt so it's only going to get easier.

6 hours ago, Smelly Joe said:

I can understand man. Nothing like a hermie to fuck up your energy spent careing for it. And the lost bud.... Sho glad you found it when you did 

Shot dude. I ended up finding another 1. So now I have 2 gaps in my canopy. Both these plants were breed by phenofinder genetics. Both had beautiful bud set but we're through and through hermaphrodites. Did a major defoliation  At day 20, 6 days later then usual due to commitments. Guess that's what it took for these plants to show their true nature.

But it's water under the bridge, those 2 and their respective clones have all been culled. 

6 minutes ago, Smelly Joe said:

Mmmm not sure why I replied like that but I guess emotions can't be seen through text. I meant it in a good way meaning you were spot on with the medium of choice and the issue I have at hand. Advice from anyone is always greatly appreciated no matter who. 

Sorry if I came across rude. 

Puff puff pass...

It's cool brother. We are all only as good as the mistakes we've learnt from. And if you see someone go through something you have already its hard not to say anything.

I apologise if I was harsh, I saw that message just after I found a hermie in my garden day 26 flower and those pollen sacks looked a few days from causing kak so you can imagine...

10 minutes ago, Za Weed Lover said:

I would like to add to my post

What is the potential of the space I have?. With the light I have, whats their potential. How many plant can I put under them. 

Honestly bud... you don't have enough light for that space. At a most I would say both your lights would provide a footprint of about 1200mm x 600mm.

You could probably pull 400grams.

10 minutes ago, Za Weed Lover said:

Good day Growmies 

So I am a week into my second grow. Finally !!!!!!! 

My first grow was good but with Eskom , i had run into some problems. I grew bag seeds and closer to harvest, some heirmied and pollinated the whole tent. 

I struggled quite a bit, but trying again

2  x 400w HPS. With a tiny extractor fan from builders.  

My grow area is 3m x 3m x 2,8 . I have about 9 plants at different stages of growth, there will be 3 that will stay and the rest is going outside, soon as they big enough. 

What I need help with is, high temps and what are the dangers. The 3 staying are autos and they rest going into my outdoor grow. 

Temps are getting to a high of 34 - 38 during the day, while lights are on. Then when lights go out at 10 am tiill 5 pm, the temp is 28-31 . At night its keep at a cool 28 to 32 with llights on. 

I do put iced bottles out during mid morning and opening the door as soon as i am up, from 6am. 

I am trying to find a way to put the ballasts outside but the rain is the problem. My grow room is an outdoor shed. They generating so much heat, is there a way to keep them in the shed but cover them some how?

I am buying a inline fan, in a few days. (550 Cfm)

Will an inline fan help with keeping temps down and do I need to feed fresh air from outside? I can not afford an aircon and will not be buying one. Think i am at my limits with the misses . 

I want to grow, dank stuff and try have my room more automated. So any advice will be appreciated,i am growing organically .  

 

Hi and welcome. Yeah those temps are too high. It will cause too many issues to mention. At minimum you need an extractor fan with a static intake from the side of the shed that gets the least direct sunlight. If the sheds roof overhangs the side a bit I would put the ballast there in an enclosure with the lid off or alternatively it should be in front of the extractor so that it's heat is directly extracted. 

@Dank 

Before I jump the gun too much I need to find some males. I've got a few good females that have not hermed that I want to pollinate. I plan on doing some random crosses not really based on locking in traits but to produce seeds that I can grow out and search for something new. My question... should I keep copies of the males I use? 

No more gnats...

4 hours ago, Smelly Joe said:

Wow your good man. LoL

 

It's a coco /perlite mix and it was pointed out to me about the pH and ec. That's the stuff that have never worried about before. This mineral feeding isn't as straight forward as organic nutes. The coco was buffered but the pH might be the culprit. 

 

I could easily flush and go over to the bio bloom like the other 2 but what the point of taking on a new challenge and giving up??? I am gonna get these 2 plants sorted out again soon. 

Thanx for your input 

Not sure about your statement about someone being good and laughing but for now I'll assume it isn't sarcasm. I'm no pro and I'm new to this forum so I don't know who needs advice and who doesn't. If you don't want my input I'll gladly refrain. Okay moving on...

Don't stress about synthetics. It's much easier than organics. It's a lot quicker to fix issues and ofcourse a lot quicker to create issues. The most important part of synthetics is mixing your nutes in the correct order or else you going to have certain elements falling out of solution which leads to interrupting the buffering and ph issues.

Unfortunately you not going to get rid of them fungus gnats with that 50/50 mix. Once those plants are established you going to have to feed them at a  minimum once a day which isn't going to give you enough top soil dry out time to stop the gnats hence why I moved to using coco with no perlite. And then you have plastic pots with holes on the bottom which gnats love. You want to get rid of gnats... at next transplant either line the bottom inside of the pot with weed guard fabric or use a fabric pot and put a layer of silica pool filter sand on top. No more gnats

4 hours ago, Smelly Joe said:

The leafs on the Bruce Banner and BB x GSC leafs started drooping and cupping. Of course I freaked but after an hour of lights on they recovered. There is no air movement during lights off. Is this a problem??? 

Temps during lights on is a constant 25C.. Will need to measure temps with lights out. When lights come on I can smell a deep musky plant smell. Typical build up of gasses. 

I would definitely leave fans and ventilation on 24/7. Monitor that plant that has the cupping effect on the leaves. It's not the normal lights off droop. Might be 1st signs that something is going wrong in the medium. Either unbuffered coco and/or to the ph is off. Check ph and ec of run off so you can get some peace of mind. Atleast you in coco so it will be easy to correct.

6 hours ago, Dank said:

For real @Mambawana that would be cool, and probably a reality as the laws normalize around cannabis worldwide.

Kev is a legend, he is one of the big reasons breeders in California are getting recognition and continuing to grow that fire. Also in a way prob the reason that I have a bit of fire from Cali. 

I dig his view about how anybody can sift for their location/tastes/experiences and breed something truly unique that you can enjoy and share.

Busy drying out some BlueberryKush f2's that came straight outa Cali, from a oldtimer breeder dude in LA (got the beans for free as well), will post a nugshot or two when i jar em up.

I keep beans from Europe and those from the States separate, most big seed companies in Europe sift through 1000s, and some  do 10s of 1000s of plants every 4 months, California has thousands of growers and loads of breeders. There is a lot of collaboration between breeders from the States and EU.

Some dank coming from the EU as well, however they are relying a bit on genetics from the states for their "new stuff".

Sjo Mendo Dope boyties are serious, will have to check that out! Will invite Cannabist to the breeder group, not sure if he could see the mention.

Cheers to us building our own real life community here in sa. Our own collaborations. Searching and sharing...

I've got a small taste of what it feels like to share my cuts and have someone else grow plants that I've grown many times over and just see how they express themselves differently. It's a happy rewarding feeling, hence why I want to now take the next step and do some home breeding and make some seeds that I can grow and share. Just glad I've met guys like you that have already been doing this and can stop me from making some amateur breeding mistakes.

I've just kicked off something that I never imagined I would do... planted my seeds in search of a stud. Fingers crossed I find one that ticks all the boxes.

@Dank imagine if we had access to some of the clones from Wonderland Nurseries. That guy Keven sifts through 1000s of plants before selecting his keepers. Use to watch all his videos back in the day...

On another note Mendo Dope who now have become Greenshock Farms are going to start selling seeds. All their Tropical Sley Ride crosses... 

@Cannabist you need to hook us up with the genetics from California brother.

14 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

I try avoid touching my buds, I know quite a few like to touch them and see how dense they are - I prefer to leave them alone.

I've only ever sprayed water and now AQ sf and milk during flower.

It's a fungal itself, so I think that is the reason why it doesn't cause any damage to the pistils.
I also quite like trichoderma and mycorrhizal fungi in my grows. How much of a difference it actually makes I cannot say, but I use it anyways.
Trich always as part of my seed soak, I believe it can help prevent damping off and root rot and a few other issues.

Moving over to coco now, I don't feel as if there is much need to use microbe inoculations. Not much organic matter for the microbes to break down etc.

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Yeah I must agree on the not touching of buds. I rub the undersides of the sugar leaves to get a smell of the terps. I haven't used any of those inoculations in coco but I would love to try it.

Damping off is . I'm quite ocd when it comes to sanitizing everything before germination. I strictly only use those coco plugs to start seeds. And then face a fan directly at the tops of them for a few hours just to dry the tops a bit before they sprout. I haven't had a single damping off this way. Domes and reusing substrates definitely increases chances of damping off.

It really sucks when you see a beautiful little sprout emerge and then start to grow its beautiful little 1st true leaves and then all of a sudden... bom bom bom... 

2 minutes ago, greenkush said:

Import one. 

I meant locally but thanks

47 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

The AQ sf? Not that I noticed, only after pollinating did I notice the pistils change colour and "die".

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So it's quite pistil friendly... impressive

Besides pollination almost anything can kill them pistils, touching your buds or bicarb spray etc

3 hours ago, greenkush said:

Just get sulphur vaporizer.

Any idea where? I want to use sulphur on alternate runs before I get any resistances to what I'm using.

2 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

I'd rather use AQ sf and / or milk in flower as opposed to something like copper soap (toxic) or hydrogen peroxide (I fear about damage to the trichomes and terpenes).

My Charlottes Angel was in flower with some bud development when I used it. Just made sure the fan was on it to dry it out and did it as the lights came on to ensure it evaporates and such.

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Does it turn the pistils red?

3 hours ago, greenkush said:

You can yes, but if you getting PM constantly something is off in your environment or you are tracking in spores.

I agree. It was more of a need to know basis.

1 minute ago, greenkush said:

Very effective, you will need to do multiple applications, AQ sf is a hyperparasite to PM.

Do you use it in flower?

Thank you. Great share. How effective is aqsv when you find pm in the garden.

@PsyCLown what's aqsf?

@Smelly Joe what's acv?

Thanks guys.