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likewise with the emergency light,helps maintain cycle. had the same thing happen with 1st load shedding that hit, got myself a reset-able apc power surge plug to safeguard my lovlies (after dishing out for a new ballast) i am using a 650va ups with 2x 12v server fans, one as secondary intake and 1 as secondary exhaust . Ironically eskom is actually just forcing a modified gas lamp lighting routine, well, very modified https://www.cannabisni.com/2101/grow-bigger-and-better-saving-30-50-percent-on-your-energy-cost

Hi Liam, welcome, yes perfectly normal, new growth will stem from the leaf nodes. lol, ignore the Spanish, best diagram i can find

any time, have just spent a few weeks with it in varying stages of repair and upgrade on my desk. regarding coverage, that's where the lense angle comes in , the 120 lense would give me a wider but less powerful grow area. i treat(and view) mine as i would a 250w hps, keep it roughly 40cm away from canopy, currently in a 1x1m tent. happiness wise, its a mixed bag. i experienced very short plants, cal mag defs and stunted growth that said i had a mindless obsession with Autos that may well also have been partially to blame for overly touchy plants and low yields. i foolishly opted to add 730nm infra red to the spectrum trying to boost photosynthesis without properly understanding the emerson effect and i think i did yield a lot of damage. those have been removed and replaced with blues, the warm whites i chose have also been binned for daylight 6500k diodes. so time will tell Pics of spectrum changes attached Top 4 updated bottom 4 old spectrum the panel will now serve as veg light (attached pic) and potentially late flower spectrum booster if i get power hungry enough. looking at your plants the cheese seem to be perfectly happy under the leds, with the younger plants they look to be staying quite squat, something i noticed with my apollo

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i ordered mine direct from cidly in china a few years ago, they make(made) up the panel to your spec, spectrum, lense etc. standard is 90 and i insisted on 120's for more spread, not sure if it was the right call. spectrum wise , i lost one 660nm red led on one spot , so had to open up to replace, so updated spectrum while i was at it. there was a big fluff job done on wattage of leds initially with the HID equivalence claims, hence i ask actual draw. the 8 spots use "3w" diodes, 15 per pod, 8 pods, max power if all diodes are driven at full 3w(700ma) is 360w. however the 3w monacre only actually indicates its max ma rating being 700ma, that doest mean they are running at full tilt. as i remember it the 360w were overrated, and the newer panels were rated at 260w or similar, but could be wrong, as my panel is easily 5 years old if not more

If i may ask, what spectrum and lense angle are you running on the 8 spots. my 8 spot apollo was recently updated spectrum wise and im wondering if my choice of 120' lense. have you checked actual draw at the wall?

considering the stairs im going to venture the "roof" may be someone elses floor

pretty much waht i was thinking, low level vent in door assuming its near a fresh air intake, would have to exhaust elsewhere to avoid recirculating

im a big fan of KISS, this lady arrived too large for micro cab and with a possible case of the thrips(dirty girl), so she got a pyrol spray and soil drench and suffered cfl burn for a few days. i couldn't do it anymore, took 4 clones and put her outside. in two weeks i have fed her fishmix once and the rain has done the rest as you can see she's happy

3 rooted clones in the tent too

Charlotte's angel Mom got tied down a little.

well, as with many my focus has been high thc, that being the milestone embedded since pre canna enlightenment days of seeded swaz and bush missions instead of school. the "strongest" buds topped out as the best and we hailed even elevated to legendary status the malawi golds and the durban poisions of old(wow, dp still makes me smile, what a story). now in my mind this translated into thc content and for many years that was the milestone of good smoke for me, getting as baked as possible for as long as possible and still walk,talk and function enough to get passed parents. passing the teenage "smoke it if you got it" years nearing adulthood i started replacing big pharma anti depressants and mood stabilisers with bud and my understanding of my needs started to change, im hyper af, restless leg syndrome to the point i could be a thrash metal drummer and sleep less than most people i know. Bud helped with this a lot and knowing the above i stayed away from sativa strains and set indica as the new gold standard for my needs. the couchlock coupled with brain melting thc worked for many years, but also strips a lot of primary response speed in muting the multitude of random background threads and sub threads that are my average thought process.(fine for 10pm, not so great for a lunchtime toke) add this to a little bit of age and shit starts getting ludicrous, forget conversations mid sentence, miss nuances and ultimately become what appears to all and sundry as a "forgetful stoner". this overall leads to one sad mofo facing the reality that his intake is finally affecting his productivity and hence potential income. Enter Charlottes, i got 0.5g, never had so little last me as long. flavour wise i get an interesting pine\junipery flavour off a lower temp dab, almost sweet in a sense, i frikken loved it. brain is fully functional, yet calm, no dumbing down of response time, no rambling of a million ideas at once,no drifting off on a tangent mid meeting, or god forbid presentation, complete body stone, calm, no fidgeting, anxiety managed, shit it even helped with my fibromyalgia...just fucking sorted is what it does my only sadness is that i dont have more yet...YET

This is as much as i know. have had extract from this strain(same cut) and was blown away, apparently not the greatest flower to smoke though. effect was life altering, so she will be in my extract rotation for the forseaable future https://www.dutch-passion.com/en/cannabis-seeds/product/cbd-charlottes-angel-seeds/ 1st prize "Medical", Highlife Cup, Netherlands 2018 Charlotte’s Angel is a sativa dominant variety with high CBD levels, 10 to 16% and low THC levels, always below 1%. It’s a non-psychoactive variety offering medical benefits without the high, delivering a strong body effect and a calming, anti-anxiety experience. She takes 9-12 weeks to flower and comes with a herbal aroma with piney diesel undertones. Genetics come from Dutch Charlotte (CBD rich clone) crossed with Red Angel (clone-only Amsterdam CBD variety). Charlotte’s Angel is popular with cannabis lovers that want to enjoy a joint without getting stoned and is suitable for making concentrates. You get a satisfying experience with the same taste and aroma as a high-THC variety. You feel medicated, yet you are not high, it gives the user a positive feeling of well-being, it is almost impossible to explain unless you’ve tried it! Dutch Passion’s first low THC variety, CBD Charlotte’s Angel®!

Getting close to flower. Ladies putting out nicely. Soil mixed for upcoming flower transplant. 38l fabric pots and 200w of hps per plant should do nicely under a scrog. Outdoor Charlotte's Angel looking happy

im with you on the cooling saving, noticing the difference cooling a 400w hps over the panel by a lot. seen a few recommendations for the vero's in smaller spaces, mostly international though. the scary thing is i did a little price comparison exercise with pandagro co out of china(i assume) building from locally sourced components, excluding shipping,using cxb3590, glass lense and meanwell driver i cannot affordably beat their prices diy! thier diy offering at 75w craps all over my rs components cart total. sadly this doesn't take customs into account.

very interesting and at times entertaining read so far. i'm still solidly in the hps camp but i will say that the sprinkler analogy makes sense. having grown with a cidly apollo 8 and now since under hps i can honestly say there isnt really a comparison, but that isn't the arguement here. 260w vs 400w isnt really fair. facing the exact issue mentioned above, lost a bank of leds, now the fault finding begins the qb and similar smd appeal to my fidget-er\gadgety side and i will probably convert a cfl micro cab to them in time just for shits and giggles as i seem to have a stupid amount of random heat syncs and coolers lying around from gaming/overclocking days surely cobs required headroom cuts them out for your average tent or god forbid closet grower, my thinking is you would have to dim so heavily to get it to work in available headroom you would lose a lot of oomph

Well we are going to need fresh air intake and somewhere to exhaust the hot air. Preferably in flower vented via carbon filter but we will get to that. So... Can you make holes or is this a rental. Where is the closest outside air source you can pull air from.

i have to say that in my opinion cfls's are false economy for anything more than veg and seedling. even on the larger wattage your drop off is so severe they really are better suited to micro grows due to proximity needed to canopy. lets think about this, thinking out of the box in a sense. you put a frame on wheels in there, lights hang from frame, plants on table in frame, whole thing wheels on out of there to be worked on, i see roughly 1x1.5 scrog there potentially. i think the key will be air exchange here, before lighting choices are considered, where will we intake from and vent too

Looking at the available space I'm going to guess about 1m across 1.5 to 2m deep. The issue here will be access to your plants and as you mentioned ventilation. Fresh air is essential. Cobs require a bit of headroom so that may be of concern. Possibly look at a quantum board type led solution if you are stuck on led as your lighting choice. Personally. I would use the area as it. White walls will be plenty reflective. I'm assuming there is a door to that area by the latch middle left.

personally prefer plastic cups, hold up better and dont really discolour, easier to cut away too. prefer cups for ease of removal as batista mentioned, always seem to damage rootball in seedling trays

likewise here, personal service and web based have both been great, i will honestly say i have found some smaller items priced better elsewhere but that is the nature of business. bare in mind the influx of new indoor growers in the last few months has decimated stock. PE isn't a town with deep pockets in general and grow guru isnt a massive superstore by any means.

How so. I picked up a 400w digital marked down twice. Paid R1600 odd. I'm happy as a pig in poop. That 25% off allowed me to grow as planned in 2x1 under 800w

that's the one, read it, understood it, duffed it on the day... i guesstimate about a double dose then, bitches be salty

shit, i just reread the amounts and it was grams not tsp, feck, i normally to a tablespoon per 5l and feed but needed a solution now , not with next watering. quickly scanned foliar advice and gooi'd. ah well they looked fine this morning, will take it as it comes, worst case i can spray with clean water and get rid of anything left over

Rare cool white pic of the tent. Backup light after power failure. Plants still a little sad on lower branches but appears to be power through the light mg Def. Foliar fed with half tsp of Epsom in 500ml water.