Naughty.Psychonaut

8 Days Later and I guess enough has happened to give you all an update. The same goed for them all, Hortimix A,B as schedule reccomend along with vermipure liquid compost and on a manual "feed, feed, flush" cycle. Added microbes and DE in all medium. 2 plants are in completely different medium, because of this lockdown shit, and they aren't all the same age so I will give attention to them all individually. I have tied down all of them, I will be installing a trellis net aswell, but they all have to be repotted once more before I can do that. 1. Cheese - 10L material pot with Freedom Farms premium classic medium, week 3 of feeding schedule. Had one BioNeem treatment. No problems. 2. Banana Hammock - 10L material pot with FF prem mix, 3 weeks of feeding, same cycle as the cheese plant, also one BioNeem treatment. No problems. 4. Blueberry - 12L plastic pot (the bottom of pot is like 50% breatheable and the pot has feet raised about 2cm off the ground so I feel like it's a pretty good pot, we will see! She was planted in a mix of fine compost, some potting soil, a good a mount of 50/50 coco/perlite and just a bit of vermiculite. she's on her 2nd week of feeding, but I see she might be lacking some Nitrogen, though? She also had one BioNeem treatment. What do you guys think? Would a natural light photo work better? 4. Blueberry #2 - 10L material pot, planted in the same mix as the first Blueberry plant. She's in her 3rd week of feeding, but also picked up some problems here. Looks like calcium deficiency, but I would like to hear what some of you seasoned growers have to say? She also had one BioNeem treatment. When I was busy spreading her open I accidentally snapped a branch right on a node, I held it in place with one hand and made a nice wire frame to keep her in place and it seems she already repaired herself! Will include photo below 5. Super Lemon Haze - The late sprouter, she's still in a 5L plastic pot in FF prem mix with Myco and DE, will have to plant her in the same mix as the blueberries cause of this damn lockdown that's all I have on hand. She's on her 1st week of feed. Haven't had a BioNeem treatment yet. Topped her once.

Niiiiice!! Those are some beautiful buds!!! You're in for a good time hahah I enjoyed watching the last bit of that grow hahah I would love to see what happens to that big bud plant! Give a smoke report on that white widow when shes all ready! She should be getting tastier and smellier by the day now!

That biltong box sounds like it should do the trick! I don't like talking about this, but trimming is probably the worst thing about weed hahah I would definitly say hold off on trimming at all untill you find smaller thin branches snap when you bend the bud back. When the leaves almost come off by themselves you know you're good. If you have little jar hygrometers they should still read about 60 - 65% humidity when you jar them and that will allow for a slow cure and that's really where the magic happens. I like to start smoking when it gets to about 55% humidity, bud below 50% is something I do not prefer. I would love to see some bud shots man!! Again, well done on that grow man, I think one thing we can all agree on is how satisfying it is to complete a grow and just the fact that it's so simple yet so hard and in the end it makes the effort, time and energy seem like nothing compared to what you get back. By far the most rewarding plant to grow, in my opinion.

Oh wow! Very exciting!!! I hope you got a good couple of empty jars laying around cause they will need a cure after dry before you will really enjoy the smoke. Hahahah the pollen sacs always show up if you push the plant a bit longer! So, this biltong dry rack you speak of, is it light proof? Best is complete darkness and yes that 50% humidity will be fine. A slow dry is the way to go, for sure, however if your bud is still kinda soft and moist after 7 days I would say it's too slow and you're at risk of mold, always keep that in mind. After the dry, you gona trim up the buds and drop them in jars, do 30min burps every day for a week, after that burp every other day. Point of the burp is for fresh air exchange, so if you see the buds are packed or don't move it's good to give the jar a little shake or just make some of the buds loose so the moist air between them can escape. Do this for a good 3/4 weeks before you try the smoke for the first time, anything sooner will be a waste of weed and will probably not be all that pleasant. My bet would be that both factors, the genetics and how they where handled are both contributing factors in the different grow structures.

Only a pleasure! Ludwigs organic stuff is nice, no problem with it. I would still like to recommend BioNeem, just because it's a mild foliar feed aswell as insecticide and keeps most bad bacteria at bay aswell. One thing to keep in mind is that it's a preemptive so you can't use it to control infestations and stuff, but rather to prevent those situations. The fact that it keeps my plant healthy and everytime I use it my leaves shine and look super thick and happy AND helps the plant fend for itself against pests and what not, keeps me coming back for more, always have a bottle on hand. About the DE, you might not find it as easy, not all nurseries have it. You can get it at the hydroshop. I have seen a generic form of it in some nurseries, it's a product called "Worteldokter".

Awesome! Just in one day, that's pretty cool. I hope the darkness was a contributing factor! I'm with @Stinger96, did you chop her?

Glad to share some knowledge, bud! After all help is what we all came here for, that and our shared level of enthusiasm concerning this plant! That's a real shame losing that seedling man, I'm sorry for the loss! You don't perhaps have a pic of the larvae? What pesticide are you using? That is one big reason why I pop seeds in jiffies, they're bleached so basically free of any living organisms and contaminant free! If you use distilled or RO water you're basically just providing a moist environment for the seed, you will never run into any problem unless the seeds are duds. Then you just have to chek temps (for seed sprouting I would say 5°C above growing conditions is perfect, so I let it range between 33°C and 38°C, try to stay below thay 40 mark, perfect) and probably the most important is to have nice direct light contact when the seed breaks surface. Humidity is not actually all that important to be completely honest. The seedling is in jiffy for like a week then transplant, by then the plant has already established a root, that will give you the ability to mix a soil with a good amount of Diatomaceous Earth in it, not only does it kill living organisms aspecialy larvae, but it also feeds the roots, provides trace elements and some calcium. You could try popping the seed directly into the mix with the DE in it and skip the jiffy, but you have to be aware that in turn that can cause problems too expecting a seed to pop in all kinds of mediums. Seeds actually literally only need moisture to pop and break surface. Infact any kinds of nutes or anything more than just plain moisture can cause more harm than good. Jiffies are so cheap and the difference it makes is really quite something. Stay far far faaaar away from giving any seedling any treatment untill the first set of true leaves and then start by half dosages till they're 4/5 nodes tall then you can use the recommended dosage. I've seen people introduce mycorrizhea in the seed soak stage, (which honestly makes no sense at all in my opinion) and none of the seeds popped, about half of them cracked open and showed a little tap root, but never made it past that. So when I say your seed needs only moisture, I literally mean only moisture. That's also another reason why people seed soak and then the paper towl method till you see a 1cm long tap root then you know it's not a dud atleast. Then into jiffy and I'm telling you man, 95 to 100% success rate.

I've always been hoping and steering to a universal change in perspective and I really hope this has more posetive impact on the big picture than negative. Usually I don't like to quote people, but here's two from, what I would concider some rather insperational people. I hope it brings good energy and provides some motivation. "Though the problems of the world seem increasingly complex, the solution remains embarrissingly simple." - Bill Mollison "Instead of controling the environment for the benefit of the population, perhaps we should control the population to ensure the survival of our environment." - David Attenborough. Words will never seem like enough if your not willing to rise to the occasion and there's no excuse for laziness.

For a tranny that still looks pretty good hahah I'm with @Bospatrollie2 on the time thing, if it's gona pollenate your crop and you didn't want that, then chop her asap.

Oh yeah, was just about to say, picking out the seeds when preparing for a smoke will probably be the only down side? The difference in potency from the plant having to invest energy into seeds while flowering will most probably be unnoticable, she might put out little bit smaller buds than she would've, maybe not even, but things like that might differ. The weed is still weed, though. How about making some extracts or something?

I hope the darkness ripens her up a bit more for you, let us know how she turns out and if the trichs became more amber? That big bud plant is one bushy bush hahah I know trimming and cutting back isn't really an issue when it comes to autos, but I'm sure removing the larf from the inside of the plant will help her direct more energy and all the good stuff to the tops, will also help with airflow if that's ever a problem. As I have never grown autos, I really can't say what to expect with the harvest, but just by looking at the pic I would have to guess somewhere around the 50g mark. Would love to see the buds when they're ready!

Hey bud! Before getting into it, I dig the look and structure of that plant, I also always have a bagseed growing, that being said I have to advise you to not invest too much in that plant, sorry man! Bag seed is never the same strain as what was in the bag, not even with good weed, that's the hardest thing we have to accept as growers hahah. So I guess there's your first answer, and even if you had flowers on her even if you harvested the bud, telling the strain is basically impossible. It's a hybrid, forsure. The only way of telling the sex is waiting till it flowers. As soon as they flower either on the day or the next day you'll be able to see the sex.

Nice man, well done on that auto, looks like it's gona be a pretty big yield then? Hahah I hate procrastinating, but still it happens so often! If it's a straight indica and I know I don't have a lot to do I won't mind, but for the most part I don't enjoy not getting things done. About the dark period, I've done it like a hand full of times with outdoor plants, starting with a plant my buddy claimed as it was still growing under my care and came harvest time he almost insisted I did it with his plant. I couldn't say if it's really true as this is just info given to me, but what I can say is it will not do any harm at all. What I've heard is that it kickstarts the drying process and is a bit of a stress factor, you see as soon as we cut them down they should be hung in darkness, the reason for that is that some sugars and starches and things are more active and mobile in the plant during light periods, so the low temps and darkness will mimic the winter being in full motion, to get them to flower we shorten the day and prolong the light cycle mimicing what happens with the season in nature, so giving only darkness will almost be like forcing her to "finish" quiker, thinking theres no more grow time for her, and also if you let her go in the dark all dry that will also obviously help with getting her to "finish" what shes doing.

Nice, only 12 day flush and she's looking like that? Is she an auto? What nutes did you use? If that was my plant I would be damn happy with it just like that, but that's just cause I don't prefer couch lock. Perhaps the trichs will go more amber after the chop? I've never seen it happen, but have heard of it. Also, put your plant through a 48h cool dark period, no light and low temps. Make sure her roots are dry at the point of placing her in the dark, don't check before the 48h is over.

I'm trying to get my second setup together, was gona buy a small tent for vegging and all that, but someone asked me why the hell I would get a tent smaller than the one I already have, so that stuck with me hahah now I'm trying to get everything bigger and upgraded, so the setup I have now will then be used only for veg, clone, seeds all the stuff that can happen under a 18/6 light cycle, might even pop a few autos in there. Then use the new setup for flower, sooo I don't wana take too many clones and all that then I have to spend money on caring for them, money I could've saved to buy everything I needed for a proper perpetual grow. From there will think about a 3rd small tent to keep a mother or two, but then I will need a bigger house!!!

Wow hahah I see you like variety too! Nice, those plants look good, thanks for the pic! Makes me so much more excited about this cheese plant. These are really my first seeds from international breeders, some time ago all on different occasions I grew two Royal queen seeds and a Barneys Farm seed, but it was given to me by a buddy and I just grew them in cheap soil outdoors with tap water and some seagrow. The smoke was still awesome, but those grows is not even something worth talking about these days with all the cannabis spesific producs available to us now! Previous indoor grow was all clones and besides that have had many no name seeds float around and played around with some bag seed to gain the knowledge, but this is my first time checking the international breeders with intention to pick my favourite ones. I'm excited to see how this all turns out!

I'm very excited myself! Hahah I know exactly what you mean by the cheese smell, I never understood the whole cheese thing except that it's also something with a strong funky smell, but with my blue cheese buds from the last grow curing now, everytime I burp the jars the smell I get makes me laugh, because there's no other way to describe it as cheesy. Got a sweet kinda funk that reminds you of the smell you get right before you put some kinda sweet soft white cheese in your mouth! That's awesome, may I have a look see at that seedsman plant? Is this the first of their seeds for you or have you previous experience with them as breeders? For training I usually just go with the garden wire and some paper binders along the brim of the pot, but I think the biggest mitake I made with the last grow was not scrogging! So definitly going that route this time, specially since it's such a cheap thing to incorporate and makes the world of a difference if you do it right!

Oh yeah, variery is very important to me!

@SmokeyZero Hey bud, I did actually get a few cuttings of all of them, but they went rogue. When I did a cut back there where a few branches that I just couldn't toss, no tops or proper clone sized branches, but some actually pulled through! I didn't have space or proper grow medium for them at the time so all the clones that made it ended up in my greenhouse, nameless with some generic soil mix, nothing special and all in small pots getting odd nutes. They're all in flower now, 3 plants turned out pretty good, but will only really be able to judge when I get to smoke the buds! As for the new indoor grow, I made a whole new thread for that, here's the link, https://www.420sa.co.za/topic/3643-new-grow-on-the-go/

What's up Greg, I hope this will help put your mind at ease. I dropped 4 seeds on 27 Feb, all into bleached jiffies soaked in distilled water, in a humidity dome under some nice strong CFLs and on a heat pad under a towel, humidity was between 90% and 95% and temps where 30 to 35°C. All took 1 day to break surface, except one. That one only broke surface 19 days later. In my notes I already declared that one a dud and replaced it, took another week or so for the cotyledons to open. I'll tell you that lady had me rolling around at night wondering what I can do, but all she needed was time... now I just have one extra plant! Some seeds just take their time and one thing I have learnt from popping seeds is don't do anything funny, don't even try do things you think will be good for it if you're not sure it will help, most seeds or seedlings die because of over caring. Goodluck, bud!

I have washed some buds, mostly outdoor. Gets suuuper windy where I am now and I have to say when washing the outdoor it made my bud look 10x better, couldn't even identify most of what was left in the water, smoke was cleaner and for the reason of not smoking all that other crap and I guess the feeling at the back of my head having seen all the shit that came off the bud, it all made the high much more pleasant. I also notice that the water turns a pale green, now I am no expert, but does that not mean that some chlorophyll leached out? Which is what we want to accomplish by a slow dry anyway? I have heard that it also actually speeds up the drying process... I don't know if anyone has ever worked with wet/dry wood, like cutting down trees for fire wood. The way to get the wood to dry quiker is to wet it hahah actually laughed at this when I heard it, but it's actually a very simple explination not very scientific at all. Also this has to mean your drying conditions have to be up to par, hanging a wet plant or any plant for that matter in a humid environment would just mean you're deliberately trying to do something stupid. I have also washed bud grown in a greenhouse in the same windy conditions and I would say there is about 80% less crap that comes off and my experience with washing indoor was not so good. Actually made the weed look worse and wasn't even necessary since nothing came off, luckily only washed 3/4 branches. All in all, would say a wash is actually sometimes needed, not always. Depends on the grow. Don't think it should be a thing anyone should get used to, because in some cases it will cause more harm than good.

Second grow with this setup, let's see how things turn out! Seeds dropped - 27 Feb 1. Banana Hammock Fem - Ethos Genetics 2. Cheese Fem - Seedsman 3. Super Lemon Haze Fem - Green House Seeds 4. Blueberry Fem - Dutch Passion Another Blueberry seed from Dutch Passion was dropped on 10 March, because the Super Lemon Haze did not pop at first, the other 3 seeds popped up 2 days after dropping. So then I had Blueberry #2 pop up also 2 days after dropping and a week after on 16 March the Super Lemon Haze finally popped, never lost faith and 18 days after dropping she decided she's down to clown. So all and all 5 plants, but I have to choose between SLH and BB#2. The three bigger plants are the ones that came up first and are already on their 3rd feed. The medium plant in the back in the smaller pot is the BB#2 and the small plant in the middle is the SLH slowly coming along. All started off in jiffie pellets in a humidity dome on a heat mat under some big CFLs. Took them out the humidity dome as soon as they where open and facing up, potted them into 5L pots once they had first set of true leaves. All into Freedom Farms Premium Classic with some Diatomaceous earth, Trichoderma and Mycorrizhea. The lockdown is causing me to have to start mixing my own soil, luckily I have all I need for a good batch on hand, but am going to run out soon and don't even want to think about it!! The mix is basic - fine compost from Double Grow, potting soil from Reliance, coco coir, perlite and vermiculite. Added quite a bit if Diatomaceous Earth because I don't trust the compost and potting soil and like always, Trichoderma and Mycorrizhea. This is the first I will actually be growinging in this soil, so will have to report on how it turns out, don't know what to expect and because of that I also decided to plant the first Blueberry in it (that's the one in the bigger plastic 10L pot in the back), because I have two of them and if anything goes wrong, I already have a replacement! I also have BioNeemand Ampelomyces that I do treatments with all through veg. Sometimes I use the Ampelo during early flower if I feel a threat, all plants even outdoor and edible plants, can be used within 3 weeks of harvest. Anyway, here they are..

The taste of the buds still have to get there, only been about 2/3 weeks in the jars now, almost there, though.. The Elvis is knocking my socks off, fills up my lungs, smoke a bong and it feels like a breath of fresh air then you blow out and it feels like a fucking elephant sitting on your chest. I can imagine how it would be a nice plant for pressing! I've checked the Leafly info on it, thanks @Stinger96! The Black Raspberry is by far the tastiest of them all, the buds are small and super hard and stick together like .... well something that really sticks together. The smell reminds me of putting all of the skittels in my mouth at once and the taste is the same when you smoke it, makes you sweat and salivate like you're sucking on something sour!

Soooo, it's been about about 2 months since I've been on here and quite a bit has happened, thought I'd give you all a little update. Before we get into it, I just wana say I hope all is well and making the best of this whole lockdown shit. I am busy with an agriculture project so am lucky enough to continue working during this time. I have harvested the last grow and started another, need to buy a lot more equipment, but I have what I needed to kinda do a little perpetual thing. Built a little DIY veg space, that's not even worth talking about, dropped seeds and vegged for about 3 weeks before the first run was all finished up, so the day the tent was empty I did a whole hydrogen peroxide spray and a iso alcohol spray down and closed the tent and let it rest for a day while I cleaned everything else seperately, 2 days later moved the 3 week old plants over to the tent and off we go! So here are the rough summeries of each of the plants from my previous grow and some photos (photos are just randoms from the last pics taken, they're probably not in order, and some bud shots) - all these where clones from a buddy all grown in 20L material pots in Freedom Farms Premium Classic mix with the salt based nutes from hortishop, added microbes and the liquid vermicompost every now and then and molasses during flower, in a 1mx1m tent under a 360W LED 1. Blue Cheese - 63g Easy growing, easy to manipulate, large sized, strong plant with huge colas. Wanted to take over the whole tent, but was easy to pull it back and tie it down just the way I needed it to be. 2. Super Silver Haze - 62g Easy growing, also easy to manipulate because of strong vigorous growth and responded well to most manipulation and opened up the plant nicely with many big colas. This plant also gave some nice colours, looks more like a purple haze than a silver haze to me hahah. 3. Black Raspberry - 45g This plant gave me a little trouble, branches was all floppy and even though I tied it up it would flop open and when the buds got real heavy it flopped open so wide some of the branches tore and it never produces any proper colas. Other than that it produced some very very dank buds, probably the best buds from this whole grow in my opinion. 4. Elvis - 46g Fast growing, small, strong plant. I am not sure if it was just the buds or because there wasn't proper structure given to support the right branches, but this plant also flopped open, only more towards the end of her life, but could fix the problem easily. First plant to get harvested with a flower period of 8 weeks max including flush for 3... I have to say, for 8 weeks veg 8 weeks flower and done for 46g of this bud in a quater of a square meter space, I would think of keeping this one as a mother in future. It's like that weed you're really too ashamed to smoke, don't want it to finish, ever!! If anyone can tell me more about this strain I would really appreciate it, because I can't find much info on it?

Thanks for the advice!! The only reason I asked where to get them is because I couldn't find them as easily as I hope, luckily I got 10 for only R300 online! Bovedas we get anywhere, I know all about those little humidity regulator packs, they just don't tell you the humidity. I would have to say that is the biggest reason at the moment, for me, why I'm asking for the one and not the other. We all cure differently and in those first few weeks of burping the jar I would like to monitor what is actually going on in there. I feel it's a little more reassuring. Once I pack them away for long term storage there would be no need to monitor it, by then I'll have just a boveda pack in there and take out the hygrometer and use it for the next few jars that are being burped. I'll never pack a hygrometer in a long term storage jar so wont need a 1000 of them.