Ill_Evan

I'm not sure it's even on the radar. There is already a legal avenue for the big guys with lots of capital to setup shop for export. So whenever we start hearing about anything to do with local commercial sales will be when that is addressed, and if it's anything like what is happening in Canada, the small guys would be left behind. So I foresee a lot of work still to be done.

Law degree really helps Sure you can, just don't call it a transaction. You're allowed to gift 100g of dry herb, 30 seeds/seedlings, and one flowering plant. There's also a section where you can calculate amount of concentrate you can have/gift. It is simply two giftings happening one after the other Don't worry. If anything gets you "in trouble" you're really only left with the inconvenience of dealing with the police as long as you are indeed within the scope of the law. This is why we must remain vigilant and make noise if the time comes. I also have no doubt we would be given direction by Fields of Green and Schindlers Attorneys in this regard as well.

I felt the same, hence I may have come across harshly. I also apologise for the abrasiveness. It would be awesome if you stuck around and continued to contribute to the forum.

The constitutional court said they have to have the Drugs and Drug Trafficking Act amended by the end of this September, so unless they grant an extension it should all come together by then. You can donate up to 100g at a time to another adult according to this Bill. Also remember, that a "Private Dagga Club" is meant to be a non-profit organisation, so any funds accrued by the club needs to go straight back into the club for maybe like events, electricity or paying the gardener to look after the plants for the club. You don't need to worry about GMP or ISO because this is a private club and the product isn't available for public consumption. The consumer isn't paying for the product. The consumer is paying the club for access to the premises where the cannabis is then donated. I would also suggest to said club to do as much outreach as possible and also educate your members on all things cannabis. It's a good look, especially as we try to establish our legal cannabis community.

Weak sauce. Trying my gawd damn hardest man.

So I've gone through a bit of their manifesto, found here. Have you read through it? I think what you are on about, as well as described in the manifesto, is more to do with the small scale "Kasinomics" farmers and the traditional industry. The current Bill deals specifically within the context of private cultivation and consumption where the sale of cannabis is illegal. If anything I think this current Bill fits exactly the narrative that Fields of Green for All are pushing as their desired outcome with regards to personal cultivation. You need to save your energy for when the commercial legalisation is passed in cabinet. That's where your fight will be.

I rate this should just be the go-to strategy. Don't give people around you the power to mess with you. I think it's a great time for this to happen. Even in private spaces alone one could find a way to make a second income from this; re. The Haze Club etc. I think the Bill is pretty lenient and displays a basic understanding of the personal cultivation of cannabis. It is most certainly one of the most progressive personal cannabis laws right now if passed as is, I'd even say better than Spain's. No that's not how this works. It was passed by cabinet, now it gets debated in parliament, then posted in the gazette, then public opinion, further debate, then the Pres. assents the Bill [very rudimentary explanation]. Unless you mean after it's passed and you break the law and go to court, then sure you'll be in front of a judge and it may be lengthy and costly depending on the case.. just like if you break any other law. We've known about this for the last two years and the possession and household amounts were leaked in the beginning of the year. If you feel like you understand the draft Bill enough, understand a little bit about legal interpretation, then you're welcome to comment to parliament once they open that opportunity. I'm sure we will be staying up-to-date on that.

I think on one hand, the philosophy of regulating a plant which grows in nature is a doozy. So on that I agree with you. Regulating private use works two ways; one is to obviously limit you, but it also acts to protect you. The fact that we are given a set perimeter means no one can take your cannabis away from you as long as you are within the law. Also, 1.2kg my bru. The government I believe are well aware of the economic benefit this plant could have for the country, so they need to establish legislation that separates private use from commercial dealings because what comes next is the legalisation of trade of cannabis in the country. Also, the constitutional court commanded parliament to pass law two years from it's judgment, which will be this September, which is why we are seeing all of this now.

Welcome brudda!

Might sound crazy, but vegged only about a month.

I think you'd just have to gift 100g to three people and keep the 1.2kg stash

What?!

If I can explain it to you, I think I'll be alright with the police. Especially if it's, y'know.. the law. Edit: I mean isn't that exactly why we want this legislation? There aren't any ifs or whats when it comes to the law. If the law says that a dwelling is any part of a residence, and that each dwelling can apply the legal limit of cannabis cultivated, then that is that. But who knows, maybe you're Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma and you want to take my zol.

Firstly, an owner can lease each room or any part of their property in separate lease agreements. Secondly, again: ""dwelling" means any part of a formal or informal structure that is occupied as aresidence, or any part of a structure or outdoor living area that is accessory to, andused principally for the purposes of, a residence;" See above in red. This means you can have "many parts" to a single residence.

Easy if they're male.

No. Not a sublease. The tenant is not subleasing. The owner is leasing to 4 people, two people per room.

If you are two people with one bedroom each, sure. Each person would be allowed to cultivate 600g each in that context. But if it's a two bedroom flat and each tenant has their own lease agreement designating their own dwelling as such, and each room has two people, then the entire apartment as a whole could produce 2.4kg of cannabis, 1.2kg per dwelling (room). Goodluck fitting all that equipment and 4 people in a two bedroom flat though.

Again, what you posted were equivalencies, which I just literally used in principle in the above post with regards to your context. You may post them, just don't spam out of context again. Post the schedule and in the same post, write what you want to say about it. You're speaking to him, and he objects your statement. ""dwelling" means any part of a formal or informal structure that is occupied as a residence, or any part of a structure or outdoor living area that is accessory to, and used principally for the purposes of, a residence;" Otherwise an entire apartment block would have to adhere to the limit of 1.2kg which, obviously, will not be the case.

The terminology is dwelling, and can be any part of a residential structure ie room; apartment. So if someone signs a lease agreement for a single room in a five bedroom house, that room alone can cultivate cannabis within the limits of a singleton, unless it's two people then it's the limits for 2+ people in a single dwelling. Which means the other 4 rooms in the same house would collectively be within the 2+ category, assuming two or more people reside in any of those 4 rooms.

Two immature cannabis plants are equal to one cannabis plant. So you as a singleton are allowed 4 flowering cannabis plants. Therefore you are allowed 8 immature cannabis plants and must then cull 4 of them before they start flowering fully. This means that the drafters understand the concept of selecting cannabis plants whether to isolate males/females or for basic pheno hunting.

I think it's important to highlight an aspect of this legislation, and that is the upper limits of what might land you in some serious trouble. For singletons, 6-8 cannabis plants could get you a fine and 6 years imprisonment. 9+ could get you a fine and 15 years imprisonment. For households (2+ people), 12-17 cannabis plants could get you a fine and 6 years imprisonment. 18+ could get you a fine and 15 years imprisonment. I'll post the sections so @Dubi can follow:

No. What you posted were equivalencies which will be used by police officers to determine whether you are within the limits or not. Maybe type out your posts next time.

My loophole stands.

You're allowed 8 flowering plants as long as two or more adults reside in the dwelling.