PsyCLown

What I have done was to divide my lights into 2 in coming lines of electricity. Each line in its own timer. One from the inverter and one from normal power. When the electricity shuts off during loadshedding the lights stay on. Not all the lights but some of them. I have 2 110amp 12v deep cycle batteries and a 1000w inverter battery charger. 
Batteries and inverter sounds like allot of money but if you work it out with the current petrol price you would have covered that cost within the first year. 
Oh I am on led and when the power is off I only run about 400w worth of lights and fans.

@Bay Seeds do you plan on selling regular auto's or would you feminize them before selling?

10 minutes ago, Prom said:

Would make 1 meter rows, 4 rows, about 70cm walk space in between, 12 meter long rows. 48 meter x 1 meter grow area.

3 QBs per meter. 144 QBs with 120 watt per QB. 17280 watt. 415 units a day, 12450 units a month... just the light. 30 to 40% for ventilation. Might be same amount for AC as light  32k units for Eskom a month total, perhaps build a small koeberg for a MOAT is best 

768 autos... conservative guessing.. 38 kg dry each 9 to 12 weeks depending on strain. Full time job for 5 people to grow... little army to trim and dress 

I might need one of these tents if the coffee shop becomes reality  shut up, let me dream! 

 

 

 

Haha, 144 QB's - imagine that. How deep / wide are the 1m rows? How many QB's per sqm does that work out to though?

38KG dry, trim by hand? Fucking hell, that is when you buy a centurion trimmer and the people buying the weed from your coffee shop must STFU and just smoke it.

Autos are not stable, especially the dutch ones. I had the exact same experience.

The US genetics I agree just seem to be of a higher quality and they're certainly leading the way with auto's and even photoperiods.

Guys are buying the dutch stuff as its cheap and advertised everywhere with the strain names people are use to hearing and want.... or think they want.

Quite something isn't it.

I wonder how much it weighs and how many people are needed to set it up.

I would let the plants grow a bit bigger and do some training before flipping.

Also repot into 20L pots.

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20 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

I agree, don't think taste is gona be a difference. 

I am aware that organic slows things down a bit, but shouldn't be the reason why my gpw is so low.

Just as a side note, I am only doing my second grow at the moment. Still getting to know the ropes. What we are discussing is all based on my very first grow. 

I think "going organic" should be much more of a thing in the farming industry. I am on a big farm, we're trying to move away from synthetic nutes, cause pumping them into the earth at the rate we do completely changes the chemical composition of the soil and over time you destroy the environment for the plants. For a plant in a pot you only gona grow for 4 months it really isn't doing anything other giving the plant exactly what it needs. 

I am missing something here though. How does ammending the soil before planting differ from ammending while growing? And how does organic make the split between the two? 

Even mixing earthworm castings in your "medium" before planting means you've ammended the "medium". Organic dry ammendments are added to the "medium" before planting and then you just give water whole grow through. Would you say this is organic? Because, it is. It doesn't really matter what you call it and you've already ammended the "medium", which according to you makes it not organic.? I am lost. 

Yes, it is. It's the Apollo 8 from futurama. I have the light raised 40cm above the canopy and the plants are not reaching the sides of the tent. Can't raise it more (for better spread) cause then I'd be losing the last bit of intensity. Hence the new light coming together as we speak. 

With both my first and second grow I've had 4 plants in a 1mx1m space. Tried to max the potential. 

I mentioned that I could do better with the tea brewing, I had troubles sourcing potassium rich ingredients for my AACT in time, so I think I ended the grow a bit too early actually. Think that had a big impact on the end total.  Aswell as the light. 

Will update my statistics once I have them.

I agree with you that the farming / agriculture industry should look towards more organic ways of doing things - long run it will possibly work out cheaper too as a happy soil eco-system can lead to a big reduction of nutes and likely be better for the environment / earth etc.

Errm, I don't think I said adding amendments makes it not organic. I also asked the question, at what point is a grow no longer considered organic?

Making use of synthetic nutes, it seems majority consider the grow no longer organic. Perhaps adding anything which might harm the microbes and mess with the eco-system would then lead to a grow not being organic? Not sure.

Are you feeding nutes or not? I am sure with a better light your stats will improve a bit too.  

I'd probably want some better spread / coverage than what a single light like that would offer, especially considering there isn't much to reflect the light.

For your budget and needs and what is available locally, may be difficult to beat that 75W QB, especially considering the quality diode.

7 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

@PsyCLown

Is 0.8gpw too low?

Does organic grow style generally yield less than salt based? 

Or what's your hypothesis?

Comparing my organic grow vs my now "synthetic" grows, I feel the organic was slower and costlier and the difference with taste was not there unlike what people said.

I am of the opinion that organic is more of a marketing thing, the companies make more money off of it. You can still pull great yields from it though.

Chances are your light is letting you down a bit and then possibly environment and/or training. Training makes a big difference and effectively using the space as best as possible. It is easier to achieve 100g from 2 plants than it is from a single plant. It is also quicker to grow 2 smaller plants than a single BIG plant.

There are pros and cons, you gotta find what suits you and works best for you.

Scrog is cool, but once again takes more time. More time = more electricity, more nutes and end of the day how much better is your final yield?

This is if we start talking efficiencies, which some people do not care about - some just want to do it the way they want to do it and nothing wrong with that.

Organic, to me, only makes sense if you're at the point where you are not feeding any nutes, just giving water and perhaps a few amendments here and there and that is what you want to do and how you want to grow. Sort of like most outdoor grows I guess, just indoors.

Organic where you are feeding nutes, for what? For why?

Although we're going off topic now, if you wanna discuss it further start a thread and tag me  

43 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

Well, this sure makes me feel a bit better about the amount I'm at. 

I guess it also depends on your yields and such, efficiency of the grow. 

I have a friend that spent probably half of what I have and pulls harvests double the size of mine. He got lots of second hand items and his setup is bare and simple, only the essentials. He knows what he's doing and is just all around more knowledgable on these things and I also strongly believe the GrowGods bless him favourably. So much so that it kinda pisses me off at times! This guy can pull fucking top notch buds from a "swazi" bag seed grown in river sand middle of the winter (quite drastic exaggeration for dramaric effect) while I'm paying through the nose to get the right soil, right pots, right everything and then still face the everyday problems such as ph stress and deficiencies of all kinds.

Anyway, nice to see I am not spending "too much" 

Yikes man, you doing organic soil type of grows?

I recall your grams per watt being quite low as well.

What is your budget @Pants

How many plants do you want to grow? Do you have plans to expand your grow in the near future?

Just now, 420SA said:

Touchy subject if there are partners/wives in the picture 

Yes, very true... This is probably one of those instances where if something happens to you, you hope your wife / partner does not sell everything for what you told her you paid for it. haha

So I was doing some rough maths regarding how much I have spent on my grow equipment. Just equipment, not the actual running costs like electricity, nutes, coco and also not including seeds).

This got me thinking, how much does your grow equipment cost?

The names will not be publicly displayed, so you can vote with confidence as I understand this could be a touchy subject if everyone could see the names of the voters.

Happy to have you onboard @Biltong and Budz

@biometrics do you use actual bud to make bubble hash and then press the hash - or would you just press the flower straight?

I know using trim for bubble hash then pressing that would be great! Just wondering about pressing the flower as is vs turning the flower into hash then pressing the hash... I think you'd lose out on yield by turning it into hash first.

Also do you have a link to your camping washing machine please, love that idea!

So I want to try and improve my system a bit. These smaller carrot work well for my 20L fabric pots.

I have a small pump for an aquarium in my res, so no need to have the res high off the ground.
Although I'm thinking try and put a larger pump in next time and then see whether the drippers are more balanced or look into a dripper ring of sorts, similar to what flora flex have I guess.

The blumat tropf carrots are super easy to setup and fine tune. To fine tune its just turning the screw at the top to loosen or tighten the grip it has on the tubing.
It doesn't leak, unlike my DIY attempt at an automatic watering system and does not require high pressure to ensure even feeding as each carrot can be adjusted individually.
The carrots only provide water when the medium dried up a bit - so plants only get water when needed and not as per a set schedule.
Over watering isn't really a problem with coco, but if one were to use it with soil it can help prevent that.
Fertigation I find leads to better growth and my plants seem happier compared to when I was feeding by hand with a watering can.

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So I added a pump so I don't need to worry about gravity.

I want to look into something which will spread the water better.

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As someone who knows a little bit about the law and property leasing agreements, I can already see loopholes unless they have been accounted for. 
They will need to define "household", otherwise you can just "sign a lease" of one room in your house to a friend and boom. Your limits have doubled. Sign another lease and boom. Your limit has tripled. 

Looking good! Eager to see the ladies starting forming some bud.

How long were the plants in veg for?

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Come on guys, nobody else?

Very nice guys!

I have built some LED strips and many QB's

I prefer to run active cooling with my QB's now as the temps end up around ambient room temp, so faaar cooler than passive heatsinks.

Also can work out cheaper depending on where you source it all from.

Unfortunately no pics at the moment.

So something is happening at least, what exactly does this mean for us though?

Same same for now, wait for public submission / opinion at which point we're able to make submissions and give feedback as to what sort of quantities should be deemed reasonable for personal consumption etc?

12 hours ago, TheUltimateNoob said:

I use this clip-on macro lens I got online off wish ages ago, around 2.5x zoom on my phone camera and a lot of effort to keep a steady hand


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I have such a lens as well, but my macro lens isn't as great - it blurs the sides heavily due to the depth of field being very limited.

I see the new Xiaomi's have a dedicated macro camera, like the Note 9S and the Poco M2 Pro (seems to be India only, can't ship batteries out of India easily either, bleh). 

It doesn't really matter much with 24/7 lighting, although factors to consider are also based on your light cycle.

Typically one waters when the lights are on, as mentioned best to avoid watering close to lights off - although if you are unable to water when lights come on then I really do not feel as if its an issue.

With my blumat watering system, it waters when the medium dries out - so as and when needed really. Haven't had issues.

*Trichome Porn*
Lmao couldn't resist that. 
 
Anyway, not much to talk about folks, they're just looking super fire... These fuckers are frrrosty! 
Minimal maintenance since the last tie down and I'll feed her tomorrow... Its just a waiting game right now. 
 
Enjoy the pictures, cheers!