Okes, not taking sides here, but HH is not a bad over the counter shop. I've really never had a problem with them,again OTC. I haven't ordered online from them before.@pat, I know you've had some issues and I don't want to tick you off before I've had the oppenrtunity to smoke your bud:) :) :) Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk