PsyCLown Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I don't really grow many autos but I do not dilute nutes and I do not flush either and I also use coco.I believe autos do use slightly less nutes though. Plant looks as if it still has a few weeks to go before its ready for harvest.What nutes you using and what EC are you feeding them? Edit: What PH do you give to your plants? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 I don't really grow many autos but I do not dilute nutes and I do not flush either and I also use coco.I believe autos do use slightly less nutes though. Plant looks as if it still has a few weeks to go before its ready for harvest.What nutes you using and what EC are you feeding them? Edit: What PH do you give to your plants? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using TapatalkSo I do not measured EC, I do not have the tool to do it. I use General Hydroponics and follow the chart for coco. My PH is around 6.5, has been throughout the grow. Grow has been pretty great up until now :-/Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 So I do not measured EC, I do not have the tool to do it. I use General Hydroponics and follow the chart for coco. My PH is around 6.5, has been throughout the grow. Grow has been pretty great up until now :-/Sent from my SM-N950F using TapatalkThat is a bit high, I always have my pH a bit lower.However from what I recall, nitrogen isn't locked out very easily and I doubt at 6.5 but may not be a bad idea to lower your pH.I aim for a range between 5.9 and 6.2 generally.Perhaps do your next feeds at 5.9 and monitor from there and see if it improves... Although you are going into flower now so changes may not be noticed as easily due to no new leaves. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 That is a bit high, I always have my pH a bit lower.However from what I recall, nitrogen isn't locked out very easily and I doubt at 6.5 but may not be a bad idea to lower your pH.I aim for a range between 5.9 and 6.2 generally.Perhaps do your next feeds at 5.9 and monitor from there and see if it improves... Although you are going into flower now so changes may not be noticed as easily due to no new leaves. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using TapatalkThanks for the advice. I was thinking of watering a day later and skipping nutes on it. Do you water with nutes on every water with your coco grows?Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Thanks for the advice. I was thinking of watering a day later and skipping nutes on it. Do you water with nutes on every water with your coco grows?Sent from my SM-N950F using TapatalkI do, every watering my plants get nutes or if I have the blumat going then they get nutes constantly as the coco dried out which is generally small amounts of feed multiple times a day.Plants love it. Never had issues with salt build up either. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 I do, every watering my plants get nutes or if I have the blumat going then they get nutes constantly as the coco dried out which is generally small amounts of feed multiple times a day.Plants love it. Never had issues with salt build up either. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using TapatalkGood to know, thanks! Will see how it goes. Really just want the leaves to stop drooping.Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 What's your temp and rh like BTW? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 What's your temp and rh like BTW? Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using TapatalkTemp is around 27 but did get up to 29 on one or two days last week. RH has been between 50 and 60.Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGG Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 So I do not measured EC, I do not have the tool to do it. I use General Hydroponics and follow the chart for coco. My PH is around 6.5, has been throughout the grow. Grow has been pretty great up until now :-/Sent from my SM-N950F using TapatalkHi, is that your pH of the water before or after adding the nutes, in general pH drops after adding nutes to water Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Hi, is that your pH of the water before or after adding the nutes, in general pH drops after adding nutes to water Sent from my F5321 using TapatalkThat is after adding the nutes.Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGG Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 As@PsyCLown suggested PH6 worked best in flower for me when I have grown in coco, veg a little less. Keep at it brother Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Sorry just another question, when watering coco should I always water till there's run off?Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGG Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Usually I water coco slow till I see run off, especially if EC is on the high side. Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Sorry just another question, when watering coco should I always water till there's run off?Sent from my SM-N950F using TapatalkPeople recommend that you do, however I never do and have yet to experience issues. Sent from my Redmi Note 7 Pro using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 How are they looking now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 Still a bit sad even after this morning's water. I am just hoping this is a combo of light stress and it approaching harvest. I think there's a bit of fox tailing. I've raised the light to 50CM above it now. Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 remove all the yellow leaves, plant already gave up on those. The left bud pic looks like foxtailing. What is your light setup right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 remove all the yellow leaves, plant already gave up on those. The left bud pic looks like foxtailing. What is your light setup right now? Thanks for the advice. It's a 240W quantum that's at 130W and 50cm above the canopy.Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Can't be foxtailing on that setup.. starved, hungry.. you still on the 50% dosage? I would go max wattage on the board and stay at 50cm distance.. but pump it up! And same with nutes.. check the recommended dosage for flower and give em that! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 Can't be foxtailing on that setup.. starved, hungry.. you still on the 50% dosage? I would go max wattage on the board and stay at 50cm distance.. but pump it up! And same with nutes.. check the recommended dosage for flower and give em that!I have increased to full nutes today. Will crank up the wattage nowSent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_Evan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Slartibarfast said: I have increased to full nutes today. Will crank up the wattage now Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Because it's this far into flower, I wonder whether increasing nutes and light strength would cause more stress than not. If the plant thinks it's near the end I'm not sure how much it would recover. I'd still go with @Prom's recommendation though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prom Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 ^^ Reason why I recommend that is simple: 1. My guess is that the plant started to digest itself to feed the flowers with the nutes they need. 2. 50cm distance on 130 watt for 2 QBs... you can't reach the micromol the plant would like to flower. If you punch em to max, 50cm distance should be around 900-1000 mmol PAR. (pure guess, but I get about that on my boards) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 Harvested yesterday and hung to dry. So much foxtailing, really think it was either heat or light intensity that stressed the plant. Lessons learned but happy I have a harvest.Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsyCLown Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 You harvested very early.... Still had a good few weeks to go IMO. Probably 5 more weeks or so I'd say. Those pistils look very new and long - they typically end up looking shorter once the bud fattens up and then it still needs to mature after the bud has fattened up. Did you check the trichomes to see their colouring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibarfast Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 You harvested very early.... Still had a good few weeks to go IMO. Probably 5 more weeks or so I'd say. Those pistils look very new and long - they typically end up looking shorter once the bud fattens up and then it still needs to mature after the bud has fattened up. Did you check the trichomes to see their colouring?Yip, I think the light was too intense it was constantly throwing out new pistils but the buds had good amber trichomes coverage already. Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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