Weskush

24 minutes ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

Spores are legit when you wana spawn straight to substrate like with PFtek, but in the case of going for monotubs and bins you can clean up LC on agar too, no need to get spores for that. So the same syringe you get for the PF tek, you take that and drop one drop on a plate of agar. will have different colonies pop up, you wait for the strongest one and transfer to new agar dish. repeat this process till you have even growth that indicates something close to monoculture where there's little competition to thrive, they're your strongest and most prolific. take that agar, put it on bulk grains, use the bulk grains to spawn to bulk substrate and there you go. monotubs for daaaaaaayyys. 

you can also take the grain master culture and put it onto more grains, doubling, trippling even quadrupling your culture. 

also when you have a clean agar plate, it's easy to make 10 good agar plates from that one ans say you end up with another 5 master cultures you can go ahead and transfer 10 of each of those and you'll have between 40 and 50 plates of master culture. 

from there you just go crazy and dump psilocybe mycelium all over the place and wait for the magic to follow you

Shot for that bro! So many possibilities! Like pheno hunting. Don't want to plug other vendors on here but i came across www.mushroomnetwork.co.za and they sell spore prints and swabs with agar plates etc. Do you have any experience with them?

34 minutes ago, Bos said:

Happy to find this thread.

Eishh, so I'm not the only one with "dialing in" struggles haha.... (I still have a ways to go.)

@Weskush congrats on that cake, hope you get some lekker fruits.

Going to do 2nd round pf-tek with brf today, have a few LC syringes(Pesa and wavycap from sporeemporium) with some leftovers from the 1st round(10days no visible myc) suspect enviromental conditions were fluctuating too much as I tried to dial it in. At least no visible contam so believe my sterile technique is good. 

Now managing stable temps 20-22 and 95%rh as I'm using the garage, not sure if airflow FAE will be adaquate but can adjust if neccesary. Still reading a lot regarding this new endeavour, would like to get some sporeprints, then go mono tub route. Found lots of updated info on 'shroomery' wrt pf tek, agar, monos, substrates etc. 

Set the bar high it seems....Want to eventually be able to grow the cubensis and woodloving shrooms indoors.

Lekker man! Such a fascinating specimen hey.

I also looked at spore prints and spore swabs to agar then bulk substrate for the next try. Either mono tub or dub tub tek. Lekker times!

My vape is set at 428 F (220 C) constantly. I do smoke the gool ol Golden Virginia green packet rollies...Anything lower feels a bit pap hey. Higher is also cool. Lekker thick clouds and a harder hit to the dome.

7 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

Nah not mutation, just environmental. Mushrooms are extremely sensetive, they'll quickly show you what's up with your environment. 

Too much fresh oxygen and too little humidity = short stems with big caps

Too much humidity with high levels of co2 with too little fresh air = loooong stems with tiny caps. 

The thing you mentioned about the perlite staying moist, that is 100% and it shouldn't deter you from misting. you should still mist.

What I see there, the cake drying out till it turns brown on the surface, the muhrooms forming like there's not enough humidity it's all clear indication that there's too much fresh air, it's a too dry in there. needs humidity.

this could also be low moisture content on the inside of the cake. you said you soaked it for 24hrs after you birthed it, right? well you also incubated for waaaaaayy longer than 2 weeks, which is the normal incubation period. cakes that are colonised within 2 weeks are still quite moist inside and has some weight to it, but then is still soaked for 24hrs. 

what I am suggesting is, yes I know you soaked the cake, but maybe it was already much drier than a cake that was only incubating for 2 weeks. you see? and maybe needed longer soaking? 

the perlite can be soaked, you just can't float cakes on water or they'll fall over, so you put perlite so there is a surface and sooooaaaak it, it must be wet wet wet, and as it slooooowly evaporates upwards it'll help trigger pinning aswell as add humidity inside the tub and will form condensation that obviously comes with high levels of co2 and needs to be fanned out more and more. 

and don't forget to roll your cakes in vermiculite!!! will help A LOT! 

Aaaah yes! The cake being more dehydrated than usual is a big factor! Didn't think of that. Will keep on misting and fanning. They're growing though, just slowly. How about after the first flush, dunking the cake for a solid 24-36 hours and see if the second cycle will be better?

Shot alot again brother! 

2 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

Hey bud the blueish bruising I see there indicates the presence of psilocybin and or psilocin. 

Those are some magic mushroom pins you got there brother  

yeah the cold can slow things down drastically even bring things to a complete halt especialy with mushrooms! 

but I also think this could be just the fact that the culture wasn't cleaned. happens to me a lot when I test cultures, I end up with only one or two shroomies then I make tissue culture from that one or two mushrooms I get, clean the culture till I have nice fast and even growth, then I put it to substrate and get full flushes 

you say you mist only when you don't see droplets on the side? why is this? 

this might seem conflicting with what I said before about you don't want your tub to dry out too fast... well you also don't want it to stay wet inside there for longer than the period it takes in between fanning and misting. you need to mist each time you gona fan, but you should fan more when you go to fan and mist. don't mist more than you fan.... other way around, fan a lot more than you mist... this is also why fresh air is so important, no air should get stagnant.

remember bigger droplets take longer to evaporate, so mist with something that makes the finest mist with the smallest droplets you can possibly find. and literally only mist like 2/3 sprays and let the droplets fall where they may. you only want a teeeeeetsy bit of moisture on the surface. and you wana replace that moisture as often as possible, by continuously evaporating the old moisture off, without letting the cake dry out...

walking a tight rope here  

helps a lot if the cake is hydrated and never dried up.

idealy, you would like to use fog which is not the same as mist. the air particles between mist is much less than with fog, fog has more fresh air in it thus doesn't carry as much water and also evaporates much quicker. best in the bizz is those ultrasonic foggers / humidifiers from clicks. you can also use the pond fogger from the hydro store. 

If I can draw a small little "flow diagram" it will make it much easier to understand, but what triggers pinning is moisture evaporating off the surface of the mycelium....

Open SFC, fan all the old air out for about 1 min, then mist lightly so it doesn't take too long to evaporate, then fan again before you close to induce evaporation... should be dry by the next time you come to do the same. 

your cake should never be dry but also never wet. 

the dunk & roll after birth makes all this muuuuuuuuch easier

Shot brother! Stoked to hear that it isn't contamination! The stem development just seems different than what i've seen on the net. Bit of a mutation you reckon?

My reason for not misting so regularly is that my perlite has stayed consistently moist since the beginning and maintaining 90% RH. I still mist though. Just not with every fanning. 

Will definitely go with spore prints/swabs to agar in the near future. Fascinating stuff!

I also taped closed the middle rows holes on the fc. Definitely keeping the condensation in for longer than before. 

Lets see how they grow! Shot brother.

Yo @Naughty.Psychonaut my cake isn't pinning as expected probably due to the sudden cold temps the last couple of days. RH in chamber is constant at 90% and temps avg 18celcius. I fan at least 5 times/day and only mist the inside walls when no condensation is visible anymore. Got some strange shroomies popping up and can't find anything on the web. Could you please have a look bru? 

Shot brother! Thanks for that info.

I noticed my first pin this morning

Its only one so far but it still feels like a   million dollars

Last thing. If my current sfc lets too much moisture out too fast, how about i just use my propagator for the bulk substrate grow? Just mist and fan as required. Good idea?Bad idea?

2 hours ago, Naughty.Psychonaut said:

Last thing I need to mention, if everything is 100% in check there is still a possibilty of getting no fruits. if it's not a strong master culture it's easy to get it to colonise a substrate, but fruiting is a whole different thing. 

this is where agar becomes important. once you can clean up cultures it opens a whole world of possibilities!

Ja i'm going for week 3 now and still no sign of pinning. Will see. Agar is the next level for sure. Firstly want to see if i can get fruits from spore syringes before i go in all out berzerker!

Those colonizing bags which get injected with culture and broken up with bulk substrate looks like the better alternative to the grain jars available here. With the grain jars you can't really shake/break the partly colonized substrate up to speed up the process...or can you?

Well at least i have a fresh order on the way and will go monotub style or re-use my sfc but tape up some holes instead.

Patience and peace brother

Shot @Naughty.Psychonaut! 

After colonization i did dunk the block in water for 24h but didn't roll in vermiculite. Read somewhere that it isnt necessary..? My perlite doesn't dry out at all which is weird. So many factors. Gonna just let it roll on and see what happens.

Ordered a little something something for shits n giggles from Sporeemporium. Natal Super Strength spore syringe, bulk house substrate(pasturised) and grain spawn kit. Going to try the monotub route. Only need to get a different fruiting tub instead of using the shotgun chamber. Will keep you in the loop of things.

Lekker man and appreciate your time

Yo @Naughty.Psychonaut hope all is well brother! I need your input on my current situation please. My pf cake was fully colonized with no signs of contam this time round. Placed it in a sfc with soaked perlite in my room. Avg temp about 20celsius and rh avg 90% in chamber. Misting and fanning minimum 3-4 times/day. Its been 2 weeks and no sign on pinning and cake is turning light brown. Is it contam? Shot in advance brother

A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

Blessed to have some of your genetics in my collection.

Now they can be classified as Limited Edition i guess...

Jah Guide bra

22 hours ago, Ill_Evan said:

As far as the article explains the cops only looked into the property because of an "odor" and then they reacted swiftly. I'm not sure how they would get evidence of the person dealing from only finding a grow room and extraction equipment because as far as anybody knows the person and their family has a huge apatite for the 'ol cannabis bush. 

There's always these articles of okes getting caught, but I never see them brag about people being actually convicted or serving time  give me cases!

To be arrested for suspected dealing there has to be, at least some baggies, scales, large amounts of cash etc...if none of these were found it is complete and utter piss takery. Only a large amount of weed and some growing equipment are not justifiable to get arrested for suspected dealing. There is still an amount stipulated on how much weed are allowed in one's private property. If this held any value or not, i don't know. Max 1.2kg dried flower for a household of more than 2 persons right? and 600g for 1 person. Correct me if im wrong  

9 hours ago, jabulanithehutt said:

https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/suspect-arrested-in-table-view-after-police-find-cannabis-lab-in-his-house-a0e4a64b-d54a-4561-9b80-54a20a126629

That's why you establish good relations with your neighbours before pulling this kinda dumb shit off. Dumb move Donnie Brasco. Dealing is still illegal, whether its ganja or tik. The cops see no difference. Now he's gotta deal with the consequences.

On 5/10/2022 at 9:58 AM, greenkush said:

Harvested.

 

Next level shit brother

Interesting. Mixing different strains' pollen hasn't crossed my mind yet. Gonna get a lekker lucky packet fosho!

19 minutes ago, Khakibos said:

Definitely a must, I usually pull out random weed plants I see growing a long the side of the veld or anywhere I find them a long my walks. Even if it's not a male, it could herm. Unfortunately the parks in my area have always been the local uhh crackheads hangout, fuck knows about the other drugs they use but I can tell you they smoke kak hermie skyf 

Ja scheme that i'm going to take a cutting. It might be something special or not...Those crackheads don't care about strains. Mix is mix vir n bottelnek haha!

1 hour ago, SkunkPharm said:

It is possible that a light shines on it at night this preventing it to flower. Very kak soil preventing it from growing big.

That is highly likely man. Both points. Guess that i was caught up in that "mystery strain" fantasy and forgot my logic at the back door haha!

Will still monitor this soldier.

40 minutes ago, Bos said:

Have heard a few stories of impossibly large cannabis plants and have personally seen a number of large cannabis "Trees" (3-4m tall and wide/25cm dia main stem) that seem to defy their standard cannabis genetics.

Its difficult to think that they grew that large in 1x season, possibly the plant revegged naturally from the previous year?

Possible...the non-flowering i find interesting though. The plant doesn't seem have grown much over the last year also. Stands at about 1 meter high with smallish, Indica like leaves. 

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That sounds like a kaka situation. I guess that the herb doesn't affect everyone the same way. With pre-existing mental conditions it could go either way. Take a break. Take a KitKat . Use the herb. Don't abuse the herb.

I also thought that it could be male but not even any sign of male flowers. This plant is getting full sun and flowering was supposed to be triggered by now. Ruderalis perhaps with a continuous lifespan? Haha if that even exists...Im just speculating for i've never seen a plant going for over a year without flowering at all.

Howzit growers!

I've been observing an extremely hardy plant thats been growing in a certain location for the last year. This plant seemed to survive the whole year, maybe even longer before i started noticing it growing randomly in a private estate. No care given and only rain water as far as i can tell. Very dark green, compact structure and most importantly, what sparked my attention was that there still is no sign of flowering. 

Could this be an original landrace strain from the Zim/Mozam builders that dropped a seed perhaps?

Will take a pic soonest and post. Don't want to draw attention to the plant

9 hours ago, Pants said:

I find it the other way around. Using a dynavap I use waaay less herb to get goefed on than smoking a joint.

Also found that once I got used to the dynavap, actually smoking amd burning nie just tastes like an ashtray. Where’s my terps

In terms of vapes the mighty/crafty seems way ahead of most vapes. The da Vincis also seems great, haven’t tasted yet. But in terms of value for money nothing beats the Dynavap M


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Ja that Dynavap looks sweet. Great workmanship. The only thing preventing me from buying one is that it looks like you're klapping a crack pipe when heating it up. Not so cool for public use.