Heisenberg Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 For those of you thats interested. Here's my first and current plant: If called this plant "Cousin Larry" - Mainly because its survived the worst circumstances IMO. Its first days were grown under an incandescent desk light bulb during the nights, and then moved to a window sill in the mornings before I leave for work. I literally was winging it when I picked these seeds up off my friends table and floor. I stole some potting soil from a different plant and mixed in a 80/20 ratio of potting soil to worm castings. The plant one day fell off the window sill, spilling all the soil and exposing some roots, I put it back expecting the plant to die since they're so sensitive. Alas it still grew... Eventually I bought this: Its a DIY LED Aquarium lighting kit, with 0.75w LED chipsets. Total of 7.50 watts at R189. Waterproof and gives off almost no heat at all. At the same time, I started reading extensively about the cannabis plant and already saw the errors I was making. I started fixing things and getting a setup more permanent which helped my plant growth a whole lot more. Had a make-shift box made from those dashboard sun protectors, and moved the plant into a bigger pot with LECA: So yeah, Cousin Larry is still alive and currently in his(technically HER) first week of flowering. Problem is, its growing under my desk and is already quite close to the top. I have no clue what to do about that, since i've been told Sativa's almost double in size during flowering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Hi bud Are you flowering under 7.5w? Also that plant isn't sexually mature so there's no way you can tell if it's male or female. Cheers Reaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Yeah man, thats unfortunatly all the light I have for now. Will order one of these "UFO LED Grow Light "Mary Jane" - 135 Watt, 10.75 Inch, Cooling Fan" once I get more cash and space. This grow was really just a 'lets see what happens'. Also those LED shine at 600 Lumens which apparently equivalent an 11w CFL. But yeah, this really was just a by-the-way grow. What would you suggest I lack to get this thing growing properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Definitely a distinct lack of light 600 lumens is basically the equivalent of the light you get just before the sun goes below the horizon at dawn lol Get an 85w CFL at the LEAST and don't blow your cash on that LED. My Really surprised the plant has gotten this far! Cousin Larry indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Is it not possible to achieve something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q3S7v1gTNI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabtzar Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Heisenberg anything is possible. You just have to give the plant what it needs. Now think of plants that grow outside. They need the sun to get energy. so your main concern with a small grow is to get the right amount of light to a plant so it can thrive. You have to give a little to get a little so like 420sa says, go with 85W CFL MINIMUM to start with. Scrap the LED thought for now, they are expensive and are a pain in the ass when it doesnt work, where you can just go to your local hardware to replace a cfl if it blows. my 420cents:-hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Heisenberg anything is possible. You just have to give the plant what it needs. Now think of plants that grow outside. They need the sun to get energy. so your main concern with a small grow is to get the right amount of light to a plant so it can thrive. You have to give a little to get a little so like 420sa says, go with 85W CFL MINIMUM to start with. Scrap the LED thought for now, they are expensive and are a pain in the ass when it doesnt work, where you can just go to your local hardware to replace a cfl if it blows. my 420cents:-hilarious Snap...was hoping to not go the CFL route and just grow with LED's. That Cali Green dude makes it look so easy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabtzar Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Yea in USA/ Europe its easy as they have the right price for LED. Here in SA we pay a ridiculous price for them AND if they break there is no support in south africa that can ensure you will be up and running with the least amount of delay. I would suggest going with a 400w HID set up personally, don't waste time with CFL if you plan on making it worth your while.. and an ongoing thing. Just some more cents from me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spootch Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 My 2c is same as 4207365 If you really get into growing and not just mj, you can grow lots of other things indoors as well ! Then u going to need proper lights min 400w HID Messing around with cfl and cheap UFO LEDs will end up costing the same as just getting the right thing at the start ! Its exactly what I did lol, BUT I guess thats the fun part tho, trying it all urself and figuring what works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Ok maybe I should say what my aim is for the future. Since I don't smoke or consume cannabis, I would like to eventually be able to grow a perfect plant, ONE at a time and then harvest it for people with cancer or under going chemotherapy. That is literally all I want to do, and currently I only have space for one plant under my desk. Until I move next year, the best I could probably do is a CFL or LED. I can't do any ventilation or even hydro as is. I'm on a One plant One light diet. Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Some what of a disappointing update to this grow...I think my plant turned out to be a boy Its still too small too tell, but il give it a week and wait for the white hairs to show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 My 2c is same as 4207365 If you really get into growing and not just mj, you can grow lots of other things indoors as well ! Then u going to need proper lights min 400w HID Messing around with cfl and cheap UFO LEDs will end up costing the same as just getting the right thing at the start ! Its exactly what I did lol, BUT I guess thats the fun part tho, trying it all urself and figuring what works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 I was literally about to pull this plant out of its medium when something caught my eye. Cousin Larry is 3 weeks into flowering btw. Cam you guys see what I'm seeing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 More than likely a hermie due to the stress of being force flowered before it was sexually mature. Cheers Reaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 More than likely a hermie due to the stress of being force flowered before it was sexually mature. Cheers Reaf Oh my. What do I do with it now if it is a hermie? Also, I waited atleast 2 months before I force flowered the plant. If flowering to soon is the case, what happens to guys who flower after 2 weeks to keep the plant small? Im still learning so i would love to hear from those more experienced than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hi bud Nothing you can do with the plant , either pull it or use it to learn but you won't get good bud from Larry. .. It can be done force flowering but it must be done with stable genetics. If memory is correct you got this seed from a friends bankie? What this tells me is that the seed comes from very unstable weak genetics with hermie tendencies as the original plant that made the seed was pollinated from another hermie plant. A plant is sexually mature once it starts alternate noding under veg lights and can take anywhere from 4 to 10 weeks depending on genetics and strain. Cheers Reaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hi bud Nothing you can do with the plant , either pull it or use it to learn but you won't get good bud from Larry. .. It can be done force flowering but it must be done with stable genetics. If memory is correct you got this seed from a friends bankie? What this tells me is that the seed comes from very unstable weak genetics with hermie tendencies as the original plant that made the seed was pollinated from another hermie plant. A plant is sexually mature once it starts alternate noding under veg lights and can take anywhere from 4 to 10 weeks depending on genetics and strain. Cheers Reaf So this means, if you're buying weed with seeds in them - you've bought really bad stuff? Because a proper female plant (Sensimilla) won't produce any seeds?! Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kimcarsons Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Not necessarily, but largely yes. You ideally want as few seeds as possible, as the production of seeds robs the plant of energy that could be used to make resin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hahaha! You think you funny hey @Skolley . Lol yeah maybe I should name the my pc grow Sally. @kimcarsons thanks for pointing that out. But it does raise more questions. 1. Since this seed came from a plant that was pollinated by a hermie and possibly was one itself. Could Larry still produce buds that are worth anything however small? 2. If males do not pollinate females, the females then produce buds and no seeds right? That make the female a sensimilla plant, producing only the resin. If you're saying the aim is to get as little seeds as possible on a female plant, that means she can at any point during flowering, get pollinated and then produce seeds? Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Hi bud Larry will still produce bud but the quality will be C or B grade . Like Kim said the production of seeds takes a lot away from the plant . As for your second question I am not sure I follow your train of thought... a female plant can be pollinated at any point during flower but if it's only pollinated say a week before you harvest the plant doesn't have time to produce seeds. They goal is to have no seeds in your bud Cheers Reaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Small update. In week 4 of flowering: I've decided to see this through to the end. It will probably be a small yield, but I'll know what 7.5w of red and blue LED's can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hi bud Judging by where that plant is at 4 weeks of flower i would say you got a good 12 weeks left , it's a long time to dedicate to a small hermie plant. Otherwise Larry is looking good. Cheers Reaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hi bud Judging by where that plant is at 4 weeks of flower i would say you got a good 12 weeks left , it's a long time to dedicate to a small hermie plant. Otherwise Larry is looking good. Cheers Reaf Yeah I guess so. But it's cool, il wait till end November. Got another grow going aswell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Leaf Organics Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Awesome bud Just make sure that hermie is far away from any others you are flowering... pollen can travel many many kilometers and some even say 100's of km . Cheers Reaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 They're both in separate closed off boxes. Also...are there any definite signs that I Can look for, to surely say that my plant is a hermie? Ive read that females initially start out looking like males. Sent from my D5503 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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