Za Weed Lover

13 hours ago, Mambawana said:

All the luck with your grow.

Don't over water those seedlings and help the tops of that medium dry out. Small fan light breeze. Damping off can be heartbreaking.

400W HPS grows decent hard mugs. To increase yield on those lights I would recommend you flipping the photos early just after the bottom branches catch up to the top. If they get too big then you gonna end up with a lower yield of ripe buds and lots of larfies with those lights. I only grow with hps and I eventually found that I yield more with 1 plant per 400W as opposed to getting a few to share.

On a side note I'd love to afford some LED replacements oneday. Anyone grows with a not too expensive LED that can match a 1000W hps footprint 1200 x 1200.

I wish one day to afford Led, cant ignore that they are the further. 

@Mambawanaplease explain, what you mean by flipping early. How long would you recommend vegging for? Do you not recomend vegging for like 8 to 9 week? 

Plus will be using the second 400w , thinking midveg.  

14 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

Nice! Impressive that they have already popped and have leaves out.

 

What medium are you using? Looks like coco with some other stuff in there?

They  are on a mission, hoping to keep clones for a few grows. I start with plain coco and in a few days will love to my own mix of super soil. 

The Bruce Banner Auto is the biggest seedling I have ever seen.... so cool. 

7 minutes ago, PsyCLown said:

That's quite a small plant, so not a bad thing that it has not started to flower yet.

Although it does not sound like an issue which BnB would be responsible for as they are basically just re-sellers.

 

Hopefully in time it will start to flower. I had a similar issue, purchased some Charlottes Angel Auto seeds, turns out they were not autoflowers. Hoping it is at least still Charlottes Angel, with the low THC I shouldn't really feel it when smoking it so that will be the test once I have harvested.

Hope it is an auto flower but if not then will grow it out . And wait for flower I guess. Was trying to get my stash up. Guess that's the irritating part. 

Hello 

Starting this to share and hopefully learn more. 

Just bought seeds from @Cannabist, 100% germinatetion and all sealed. 

So have popped 2 x barneys farm laughing buddha,  1 x Monster Genetics Auto Bruce Banner and 1 x Royal Queen Seeds Critical.  

 Day one for Laughing buddha was 16th December and the other to 17th December. 

Will be grown out up 2 x 400w HPS . 

Day 32 and still hasn't flowers . 4 and half weeks later. Hopefully they will auto and this is just buying me some time to veg longer . But have my doubts, was a 3 seed pack that came with five . 

2 didn't germinate and all 3 look so different,  on is about 3 cm tall . 

White skunk #1 from Green smoke room. Looking boss, keeping this one. Already cloned her and moved her into a 35 fabric pot.

So excited ,she going to be a beast . She moved indoor for another 8 to 13 weeks of veg
Also popping so laughing buddha (Bernays farm and Critical ( Royal queen). Which will also veg for the same time.

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1 hour ago, Mambawana said:

Honestly bud... you don't have enough light for that space. At a most I would say both your lights would provide a footprint of about 1200mm x 600mm.

You could probably pull 400grams.

Thanks, will try see if I cant cover and hang outside. There is a bit of over hang. 

I am not trying to fill the whole place up. I want to be consistently growing , its a personal grow . Would be too much flower for me. Dont want to grow that much anyway.

400g per light or combined? 

I would like to add to my post

What is the potential of the space I have?. With the light I have, whats their potential. How many plant can I put under them. 

Good day Growmies 

So I am a week into my second grow. Finally !!!!!!! 

My first grow was good but with Eskom , i had run into some problems. I grew bag seeds and closer to harvest, some heirmied and pollinated the whole tent. 

I struggled quite a bit, but trying again

2  x 400w HPS. With a tiny extractor fan from builders.  

My grow area is 3m x 3m x 2,8 . I have about 9 plants at different stages of growth, there will be 3 that will stay and the rest is going outside, soon as they big enough. 

What I need help with is, high temps and what are the dangers. The 3 staying are autos and they rest going into my outdoor grow. 

Temps are getting to a high of 34 - 38 during the day, while lights are on. Then when lights go out at 10 am tiill 5 pm, the temp is 28-31 . At night its keep at a cool 28 to 32 with llights on. 

I do put iced bottles out during mid morning and opening the door as soon as i am up, from 6am. 

I am trying to find a way to put the ballasts outside but the rain is the problem. My grow room is an outdoor shed. They generating so much heat, is there a way to keep them in the shed but cover them some how?

I am buying a inline fan, in a few days. (550 Cfm)

Will an inline fan help with keeping temps down and do I need to feed fresh air from outside? I can not afford an aircon and will not be buying one. Think i am at my limits with the misses . 

I want to grow, dank stuff and try have my room more automated. So any advice will be appreciated,i am growing organically .  

32 minutes ago, SkunkPharm said:

Bought seeds from@Cannabist Recieved last week all popped.

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@Cannabistjust checked the web site and looking powerful and the prices, dont know how i didn't know about them. Will be giving them a try in the further! 

1 minute ago, Bakstein420 said:

@Za Weed Lover out of interest, is your heating pad adjustable and can you check the temp? I've read stories of people cooking their beans not realizing how hot those pads get. 

I use the modem as a heat pad, works great. Nice and warm but never gets too toasty. 

I use those guinea pig, cheap pet pads and always  on a plate or something and then paper towel. Doesn't heat up of then 30 degrees. Cleaver using the modem, will be keeping that one.  

1 minute ago, trichomechaser said:

Seeds are too volatile by nature for anyone to really guarantee. It's a part of nature that some seeds won't germinate. Most experienced growers will agree. Especially if you have breeder packs. A sealed Buddha Seed is a Buddha Seed regardless of where you buy it. 

The other problem is that people never want to accept their mistakes. B&B gets plenty of people furious over failed germination yet they wet the paper towels twice or three times a day, drowning them. 

If a local seed bank were to guarantee germination they would be out of business soon as their order numbers picked up because of those situations. 

Not saying you are germing wrong, but even a few degrees too low in your germ environment and you'll see problems. Winter germination is a bitch without a heat mat for example. 

B&B could have probably comminucated better, I think that came down to one person running things. There's some additional staff now so there should be better/more helpful communication. 

Thank Bud. 

I totally agree with you but I must be on natures bad side. You cant guarantee nature anyway. 

I try to keep everything  as controlled as possible and I have like a 1000 bag seeds and i used those to practice . And always check after 24hrs to 36hrs and not an impatient grower, i have left some of them, in that environment for like 14 days and still nothing. 

Maybe i am one of those random people that haven't had the best of luck and feel a bit cheated and if you have tried a different things, you do start wondering about other things. 

3 hours ago, trichomechaser said:

I'm still convinced it's the soil bud, compare it to the others who have used that type of soil here: 

 You'll see what I mean.

And you'd be surprised what a difference you'll see in something like Freedom Farms or Organics Matters or Jamie's Garden Shop soil... 

It's not the cheap seeds either - here are some of my Bulk Seed Bank R60 autos from B&B. No failed germination issues with them either. But remember, no matter the breeder - autos are fussy as hell and require a lot more 'ideal' conditions than photoperiods if you're going to be happy with the results in many cases. But these are the same cheap genetics that people hate on and I found them great for the price.

Wow those look amazing, glad you have had success with them, looking good. 

On 11/17/2019 at 8:28 AM, SkunkPharm said:

I don't think it is the seed bank selling the seeds that is the problem. I just think that some feminized seeds have an issue in general sprouting. But sometimes you can just see that the seeds you got is kak no fault of the people selling it. I suggest sticking with reputable seed companies like Green house seed, Dinafem, RQS and Humboldt if you are a beginner grower. I have never had an issue with their seeds. Also try to buy popular seeds that would not have sat in someone's fridge for 6 months to a year.

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Thanks for the wise words but I blame the cheese shop, if they sell me sub standard cheese. I feel that if you sell it then , you responsible for the quality of said product. 

This is where i need you guys to advise us in such things. Maybe I just dont understand how the community works, but I see a strain and I want to grow it, I didnt think that I have to sift through.

On 11/17/2019 at 8:19 AM, PsyCLown said:

Well, which seeds did you order? From which breeder?

I know GSR has had issues with their seeds not popping before. Some of my friends have ordered from BnB and not had issues with seeds but another purchased some auto seeds from expert seeds I think and he had one pop only. He's never bought those seeds again and has had great success with all other seeds.

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Buddah seeds , 2 x  Calamity Jane (first 3 didn't pop, then ordered another pack and now have one that i am trying to germinate, finger crossed , 6 Seeds . 

3 x GG Bulk Seeds ( Didn't pop)

3x Og Kush Victory Seeds ( Received 5 in a 3 pack but only 3 popped) 

1 x WW Auto ( Grow and got a penny bud)

1 x Critical (Photo) Bulk, Which actually grew well. 

There is been a few, cant remember some other ones 

5 hours ago, trichomechaser said:

Hey there,

I help out Biltong and Budz with their orders. I've popped around 40 seeds that I've received from various breeders through B&B, and while not all have germed, about 92% have. Last 2 batches (20 seeds) have had 100% germination success.

I realize I may come across as biased, but I only want to help you determine where your problem lies. Biltong and Budz don't breed their own seeds (think there was 1 pack that they did), so whatever else you buy (unless a local breeder) is being imported directly through the seed banks you'd buy from if you ordered internationally. The seed banks that carry them don't really have control over the viability of the seeds, it's all about picking seeds from a quality breeder, more so than the seed bank.
 

The issue here is 100% the mediums you're using, not sure about the other 2 but when I started growing a few years back I made the mistake of using a soil like that and had the exact same issues with my plants. It isn't the genetics, it's the soil in this case. Avoid barky soil you find at garden shops, cannabis does not do well in it at all! Avoid barky or woody soils. They all stunt in exactly the same way, and look like the plant in the image. Barky soil is typically very acidic and also quite hot. That is why you see what you do here, a plant that has both deficiencies and burns. 

Thank for you input. I have only ordered from them, from say one. Since the law was passed in fact. They bring in some interesting stuff. I have never grown before, but one thing i can tell you, is that i am still learning. But one of the first things i ever learnt, was about soil mixes and popping seed. My thing is I have tried everything and found consistently that the paper towel method works, for me. I have grown well over 40 plants in that time, till harvest. My problem comes in at the point, where i contacted BnB and asked them for there germination method, which they gave me the paper towel method but also did say to research more, which i did. 

I issue is with the fact, that i spend my money buying them and i can't contact Buddah, Bulk, Victory Seeds,  and tell them that they seeds did pop, twice! I understand that they bring the stuff in but they should rather say, they not the people to talk to if your seeds dont pop. 

Maybe I shouldnt blame them but who do We turn too?

I keep seeing, "put it to school fees" is this the standard thing? 

I am not saying i am a master grower, I know i am very far from that and still a long way to go. 

ya i agree with @Mambawana you need to look at your germination technique before blaming seedbanks, as most of them are stocking well known genetics. unless you're buying in bulk, then you should expect a few duds. that being said it very well could be that at any point in the distribution chain the storage/handling could fuck up the seeds, i'd strongly suggest you get in contact with the seedbank and talk to them about it, they'll probably end up giving you some freebies, but your info could help them identify where the problem is. this happened to me a few years ago, with a bad batch of seeds & i ended up getting looked after very nicely.
I recently bought a whole bunch of single seeds from a well know local seedbank & so far i've had a very low germ/success rate, like 20% where i normally get bout 90%. half of them were badly packaged & the rest were in sealed breeder packs. So the issue must have been with the seedbank.
I feel your pain though. My biggest issue at the moment is the way the online hydro-scammers are raping us on prices & delivery fees, they really pull the piss. You cant order everything you need from one place, you need to piece it together from multiple places who are all fucking partners anyways, but you end up having to pay double delivery at their ridiculous rates. My fuck i'm over spending so much money on growing, these owes are making millions while they exploit this emerging market & to top it off they have their little scams that they run to trick the unsuspecting consumers.
an example: i was putting together an order for a bunch of things, approx R1500 in total, delivery fees at +R350 so total at R1850, then i wanted some batteries for my EC & PH pens, they're like R35 in total. So i asked them if they could make a plan, as one of their affiliates sell them, they got back to me & said this: we dont stock batts, but our bluelab instruments take those batteries, or something to that effect(trying to sell me new instruments). That fucked me off as i've already bought the fucking instruments from them at R1.5k+ each. To add insult to injury, i had a look at the other site, added stuff to my order, total at R200, then delivery at R350+ again???? so i looked into sending the courier guy to collect for me, ended up being like R200 for both collections instead of R700+! fuck them! i'm boycotting them, going full organic & producing my own nutrients etc from now & sticking to the main stream garden suppliers, as they're not as rapey as these "specialised" suppliers. I'm not going to put a single cent more into their bullshit anymore.

There are many factors to look at in your situation before blaming the seedbanks.
Sometimes you do get dud seeds. It's best to 1stly always buy seeds in sealed breeders packs. I've used both of the local seedbanks you have had issues with. GSR for many years and BnB since they 1st opened up. The only issue I've had was with GSR with their in-house genetics. The plants were nothing close to what they were supposed to be. Sometimes you do get dud seeds. I've ordered from international seedbanks and found that a lot of times the freebies don't pop or they take a long time to germinate. (that's if my parcel is not confiscated by our local bubu's)
If I were you I would relook at my germination techniques and 100% rule that out before blaming the seedbanks. There are just to many variables. A lot of these seeds travel the world prior to reaching our shores. Poor handling and storage by all involved play a huge role in the viability of the seeds. As a rule I always try germinate all the seeds I buy in each batch and cull or give away the extras.
Just keep it simple and don't lose hope. 

@Za Weed Lover what is your germing technique exactly? How long do you soak for? You mention a heating pad, what do the seeds go in when you move them onto a heating pad?
I'm not saying you're guilty of it but I've seen so many guys go overboard when germing seeds and that's often where the problem lies.
I agree with @SkunkPharm though. Stick with reputable breeders. Too many fly by night breeders with very little evidence of their genetics in action. They may have some great phenos but equally as many terrible ones (Green house seed co. also guilty of this). If you see a strain that you fancy, google the shit out of it. Look for grow diaries on forums. Don't rely on images from the breeder. Look for independent views on the strains. Seedfinder can help too https://en.seedfinder.eu/ 

Yeh that should do the trick, not sure what is up with these beans being sold in SA, have been hearing similar stories, some say beans are being microwaved, ie radiated, so that you keep buying more seeds. 
More likely they are being radiated on the way through customs in two countries, this is a issue for Orchid breeders and other plant lovers.

High @Za Weed Lover , welcome to the forum!
Why not get from some of Totemics beans or Canuks here at https://store.420sa.co.za/product-category/seeds/
I can vouch for Totemics beans not having much issues germinating, and sure the other beans would be legit on 420SA store.
 
Side note, sometimes the overseas beans need a bit of pampering, but usually they come alright. What method do you use to germinate?

I don't think it is the seed bank selling the seeds that is the problem. I just think that some feminized seeds have an issue in general sprouting. But sometimes you can just see that the seeds you got is kak no fault of the people selling it. I suggest sticking with reputable seed companies like Green house seed, Dinafem, RQS and Humboldt if you are a beginner grower. I have never had an issue with their seeds. Also try to buy popular seeds that would not have sat in someone's fridge for 6 months to a year.

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So I starting growing real genetics last year ,around this time.

I have always ordered from bnb, most of the seeds didn't pop or just died.

Recently I bought some autos seeds and they didn't pop again. So I bought another pack of the same seeds and guess what nothing popped.

Plus I ordered so og autos 3 and I received 5, the pack says 3 ,so how did 5 get in there?

I have germinated a quite a few seeds in my short time.

I am currently growing some GRS seeds, there white skunk #1 is looking good but some of the other ones are struggling.

Clearly we have seed bank problem in this country and seems there is some scaly-ness going on.

For me being so new to this, kinder puts me off growing. Feel so said for people that wanted to grow themselves and ended up selling there things because they thought they couldn't grow. But really just kak seedbanks.

Won't be ordering from these 2 ever again

Has anyone ordered overseas and dont mind waiting for ,great genetics.

Is there local genetics,that are worth it?

I love growing..

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Oh yeah dude. Liking those pots. I have same ones being prepped for more ladies. Those strains sound quite decent.....



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