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    Organic soil- indoor grow

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    Those plants are really struggling. They are locked out bad. I would stop with the foliar feeding as well. Focus on getting them in good soil and force yourself to leave them alone for 2 weeks....no watering after the first good watering post transplant. No feeding. No foliar. Nothing. They might recover well if you manage to discipline yourself.:-2cents

     

    :-peace

    Thanks totemic.

    Working on the soil thing. Looks like transplant this weekend.

    Appreciation bro

     

     

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    Organic soil- indoor grow

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    I can drop off some soil for you there if it's not to much , it's untested though. I made it ages ago for my next run so it should be fine but like I say its currently untested as I was going to put a clone in to test in a few days and see how it's cooked but that will take about a week to fully test it

    Very kind of you! Happy to give it a whirl.

    Probably only be able to get there at end of week.

    I'm from out of town but go in regularly.

    Why I keep mentioning grow green organics , is because a buddy of mine who was s a long time grower suggested 50/50 ggo potting soil and perlite with regular watering seagro, plain water and epsom water alternately.

     

     

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    Nothing to pinpoint bud , you have ph issues causing lockout . A folior spray would help as the plants can use the nutrients from a folior spray even when it's locked out. 18/6 is much better as it will aid in plant recovery.  Your ph issues can either be caused by the water you giving it , overwatering or bad medium . Bad medium and overwatering can be fixed relatively easily but for a beginner to try balance ph in a soil once it's gone bad is really hard.

     

    So moving forward you have 2 choices , either buy a ph pen and test ballance the soil out again with aact and a carefull ph controll or  I would recommend that you just replant them into known good medium and letting the plants recover on there own as it's a lot easier .

    Thanks GLO. glad it's obvious to you. Gives me hope I'll one day have a similar depth of knowledge...

    Can you recommend a known good medium or do you know the "grow green organics " range of products?

    This is the mushroom compost from their range of soils etc.

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    Organic soil- indoor grow

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    Hey bro, sorry to read about your issues.

     

    Do you mean 24hrs on and 7 off?

     

    If 24/0 veg cycle:

    *can* exacerbate existing issues and make recovery slower, but is an unlikely cause IMO. Lots of people run 24/0. In your situation it *may* have been slightly beneficial by keeping temps more constant and avoiding low winter temps, allowing the medium to dry a bit. Switching from 18/6 to 24/0 mid run could've shocked them some, but you'd expect some bounce back.

     

    You, and others in the thread, are more likely on target with over watering and/or pH issues in medium, exacerbated by overwatering or simply the medium itself.

     

    You could try a slurry test, though not really entirely definitive, can give more info on medium pH. Overwatering is a killer. Humidity flux can impede transpiration and nute uptake (high and lows are quite low and high on your hygrometer, but still pretty tolerable) but with overwatering and/or pH issues your girls wont be feeding / drinking much at all, lack of oxygen will drown ém, pH may swing, lockout and lockup, lack of root development or potential rot in an anaerobic environment, depending on the [bennie]life in your medium.

    Right.

    All part of the considerations but trying to pinpoint the exact problem is proving pretty challenging. I see they've perked up a lot after foliar feed seagro. Improved color, leaves are firm but not crispy.

     

     

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    Organic soil- indoor grow

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    Ok. So this is a potentially really embarrassing admission but in the interests of helping others and learning, here it is

     

    Firstly thanks for all the comments and helpfulness. Much appreciated.

     

    I went systematically through everything I've been doing to see what problem could be.

     

    I remembered the seedlings being really happy when I transplanted them some weeks ago so I wondered what changed.

     

    Then I remembered: I changed the lights and moved fans. I wondered if that was somehow related to the problem...

     

    Finally I looked at my digital light switch/timer...

     

    My equipment has been running 24/7 for at least four weeks... probably more.

     

    My poor plants!!!

    I've reset the timer, they will be on 18/6 schedule ( I will bloody well check that the lights go off at night)

     

    I hope that this helps someone else. Such a silly mistake.

    Helpful commentary is welcome.

     

     

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    Organic soil- indoor grow

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    Budwizer's right your plants are suffering and are way behind... BUT there is hope though and it may not be worth just killing the plants yet.

     

    Here's what I can suggest... if you're willing to switch to Hydro and grow these out in coco/perlite you will be able to salvage these provided you do it right. Buy some promix from a hydro store and transplant your plants into 10-15L pots, straight into the promix. Then start feeding with hydro nutes, let them settle in the new pots for about a week and then top them. You'll see the new growth looking a lot better. I've done it before with good success. Otherwise transplant those into a good soil mix but I would suggest going into coco/perlite for the rest of this grow

     

    Willing to give you step by step advice should you be willing to do this :-peace

    Thanks so much. Can't go hydro now. My cash barrel has s empty

     

    Going to find excellent soil for rest of grow. Jamies garden shop ?

     

     

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    Organic soil- indoor grow

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    Thinking of moving them all out of that cabinet into my basement. Temps are more even than the garage. I'll put the humidifier on and fan at a distance. Just to circulate air in the room. It's about 8 meters square.

     

    I'd like to rescue them if possible. No way to go hydro now. Will happily repot in good soil though.

     

     

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    Organic soil- indoor grow

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    You running the 315w cmh? Do you water with plain tap water?

    Yes, the 315.  I suspect soil ph if you look at the reading s on the meter in the photos I posted. I use rain water from my tank.

     

    I probably overwatered a couple of times.

     

     

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    Well said , organics is a very broad field. You need to find what works for you. At a guess I would say its a little low due to it being Potting soil. Best thing to do is replant them into a good medium

    Will do. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Always appreciated

     

     

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    With organics your ph needs to be good going in and difficult to correct. Is there no way you could test your ph? It might be something as simple as a little gold dust that is needed.

     

    Reading back on the thread now and your soil mix. It may be the issue. Everyone has their own ideas on organics, and my babies go into a rich soil that composes itself over months and years of "cooking"

    You should look into reafs organics if not one of the many around.

     

    Potting soil from the nursery is mostly not adequate.

     

    :-peace

    Got a lot of goodies in the soil. Maybe screwed it up and went OTT with something.

    When they they are big enough I'll plant them into something that's definitely good.

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    What do you think of this seedling planted 23/07?

    Seems much more as it should be...

     

     

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    Think You Have ph issues in your medium bud. Even your clover looks like its suffering.

    I do have ph issues but nothing I've tried seems to work!

    Is it high do you think?

     

     

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