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Those bags only work with vacuum jars. The main word is vacuum here

Second, balancing moisture is a time consuming act... if you put in a very very dry bud, that will take some time.. easy 2 weeks, to get it to curing level. If your jar is sealed.. just wait.. and next time, try to hit the sweet spot a bit better 

The bags say, that they do both "swings". To wet they will reduce moisture and to dry they will add. Never ever use those bags on to wet weed!!! Dry it the normal way and add a bag when you are to dry, using a bag to lower the moisture brings very high risks of mold, because just takes way to long.

When your bag is crystallized, hard to the touch, you have for sure a leaking jar.. or the bag was to small for the amount weed you put in to re moist. In any case.. that bag is a goner. But as they "swing" both ways, you can re moist used bags again, as long as they are soft, you get moisture back in. Store unused bag in a jar you are VERY sure it seals.. or you lose your bags for next harvest.

If you are to wet, use silicon bags.. and if they are used, in the oven for 30 mins at 70C and they are ready for duty again 

You have an update? 

Hydro ph range is 5.5 - 6.5... you go out of that range, you will stress your plant. 4.5 is no good!

And is rather very little light.... and i mean very very little light for flowering. Can't you hang something over the plant for the shadow time? Makes a huge difference in harvest.. or end result might more resemble cotton candy then a bud 

Hi and welcome 

You have to watch temperature.. anything below 12C will make your seeds unhappy.. anything below 10C will most likely kill them.

So as long as you keep em warm and sunny, they grow.. 

 and welcome to the world of Autoflowers

My kinda thread 

Autos have some advantages.. and some disadvantages ( at least I got told hehehe)

I grew a few and, me, I love autos. 

My opinion advantages/disadvantages of Autoflower

Disadvantage

- Got told they taste less good as they grow less long (that is on the list to get tested)

- Not a beginner plant, every fuck up will lower your yield substantially, the plant demands perfect growing conditions all the time

Advantages

1 Tent for all generations (18/6, 20/4. 24/0 fix light cycle)

You can grow a bigger selection on the same space

I get a lot more yield from Autos in relation of the fertilizer I put into the plant (cheaper weed)

A lot less maintenance work (watering, defoiling) and easier handling of the plants 

First batch outdoor Autos you plant in October comes 100% without seeds as no males out flowering before the harvest. 

Over all I like the simplicity of the plant. No light changes, every 2 days 1 liter of water in my 11L pots. I have to grow 12 Autos, to reach the fertilizer consumption of one of my outdoor fems. If they don't yield at least 600g dry, my fem will lose the yield battle.. and that is with a lousy 50g dry calculation per Auto.. we reached on the last 19 Autos we harvested.. friend and myself, an average of 80g dry per plant.. we take that number, fem has to reach over 900g dry if the fertilizer i put into both, are the same amount. An Auto uses about 215ml fertilizer total during her life cycle, one of my outdoor fems stands on around 2865ml per life cycle... quite a bit hehehe (using Bio Bizz.. so fucking expensive )

I only plant Fems these days, if I can't get the Auto version of the plant.

Nirvana Bubblelicious Auto Outdoor grow.. is one of my preferred Autoflowers at the moment. Gave 92g dry, around 50cm tall.Perfect for small tents ^^

They change color by changing their chemical composition and that happens over time. Some are faster.. some slower.. some plants have their own agenda. 

As said above, you decide when you want to harvest. Check several spots on the plant.. get a good overview of the colors on your plant and harvest according to your liking. This part is the most annoying patience test of the grow cycle  but harvesting to early is a bit like wasting all the work and money you put into the plant.

Good Morning 

I guess you refer to the "hair" of the flowers. They will go brown, when you come towards harvesting time.

The trichomes (the crystals) you check with jewelers magnifying glasses or a pocket microscope.. (40x and up). Those little bubbles change their color by time. Going from clear to white to amber.

When to harvest is a bit each owns choice.. and one of the most discussed topics between growers hehehe

I give you my 5 cent, then you all can roast me 

I wouldn't harvest anything, before the trichomes have not changed at least 10% to amber. That is the earliest stage to cut the babies down.. and plan in a 2 week of flush before that!

The more amber the trichomes get, the more "couchy" the weed gets. It also gets more tasty by time. So a very tasty weed is usually also a couch weed.

Most tasty stuff you get when the trichomes have change 50-65% to amber... but not always you want a couch weed.. so I harvest depending on the effect I want the weed to have. 20%-65% amber is my harvesting range.

Energizers more early.. relaxers more late.

Fabric pots you should always raise above ground and not let them stand directly on the ground. 

Due to the the vaporization of the water you put in, I would also recommend not to go 1:1 on dosage a person knowing the fertilizer tells you, but he is using none fabric pots!

Friend lives 5 mins walking from my spot. So same climate, same plants, same size, both use rain water.. he uses fabric pots, I use plastic pots. He gives them 12 liter a day per plant, i give 6. His plants never ever use 6 liters more ^^ so the additional fertilizer will stock up.. and did.. he had to make a flush like you and reduce to every second day fertilizer, to balance for the fabric pot and the heat we have here. Tick to hot here to use fabric outside in SA.. otherwise great pots  

Not growing right after a good flush, can also mean that the root system got very swamped. Check that you let the soil dry down and have your fabric bags raised to have air circulating below.

If she is still not doing anything, is most likely a lock out. Plant shows you this one: 

But she should bounce back.. doesn't really look tragic to me.. but once more.. soil is rather new to me. 

Have you checked up on your fertilizer? 

Soil Ph?

Which Seed Bank you got the seeds from? sorry first question might be a bit strange.

Light/heat stress usually causes fox tailing.. colas get to hot from the light, hang light higher. Check room for cooling.. staying below 24C should calm your babies down again.

Veg.. way more K then N... sorry, bro.. but your fertilizer disqualifies rather harsh.. needs more N in Veg... POINT! Looks like somebody mixing stuff on good hopes.

With those numbers.. wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot limbo pole. N- 25%, P- 5% and K- 20%.. we would have a argument starting.. but your numbers look plain wrong for vegetative growth on cannabis (at least to my knowledge)

March April is waaay to late  First time I see a fertilizer giving dates, when to use it. Is like you get driving lessons and the guy says: break at 17.00 

You use fertilizer when the plant tells you.. mine are flowering and on flower fertilizer since last week Jan ^^ March/April for Outdoor growers to use flower specific fertilizer.. can't agree one bit with that text 

?? Contains no P?? How would that work??

I know that some salts count as organic.. but the main part is inorganic.

If somebody gets kinky and tries the product.. please post a report. Right now, I am not sure that works as good as what I use.

I got in my head, that I want some Sour Diesel.. any recommendations for a seed bank you really enjoyed their Sour Diesel?

I think I saw fabric pots.. I agree 100% with Dank.. looks very much like dry root. Fabric pots have the stupid habit, that they run the water off over the sides and leave the root dry. Make a hole at the center and fill her slowly with water in several steps, that you are very sure the whole pot is wet. Should recover fast.. check if she goes herm just on one branch.. sometimes you are lucky and is just one branch going haywire. So one cut might save most.. if it is spread.. shredder the plant and compost it.  such a nice plant

I honestly think you can skip on the Acti Vera.. is just of use in coco. There is a little note on the Bio Bizz table in regard to that.

20l is small for fems and huge for autos.. for fems.. pots are never big enough ^^ I always lift the pots to see if they need water.. or i would have gone 100l long time ago. 

As you use Top-Max (magic, isn't it ^^) and heaven.. I would suggest to go on your next batch without epsom and acti vera.. should end same same.. just cheaper.

Nope.. never had a Mg issue on soil with Bio Bizz. Top-Max is a Ca and Mg provider too.. but my main defense are my pot sizes in combination with my compost. My fems all have 60l+ pots. So the soil buffers any shortage on Mg.

And have to ask back.. as I am no soil dude ^^ Acti Vera is a enzyme for coco.. what's your reason to use it on soil? 

Quick internet search.. if you use Heaven.. you can skip Epsom. And both Top-Max and Heaven have Ca and Mg on their ingredient list.. other culprit to look for your Mg shortage is the water you use. 

3 hours ago, PsyCLown said:

What issues did your friend notice?

Sorry.. forgot to answer this one. His leaves slightly curled and rippled and got lighter spots on the leafs edges. I didn't diagnose it on that.. when he told me that he gave 4 grow and 4 bloom per liter.. "but my autoflowers are way smaller and get 4/4, didn't think it would hurt the big ones".. my answer was: Is the amount of flower material using the nutrition. You have hardly any flower substance yet, where should all the P and K get used?

Understand why a plants needs what type of fertilizer, gives you the best idea how much to give. And again the same rule: Less is always better, if you are in question what to do.

If you actually log the water consumption of your plants, you will see the first change.. they stop drinking, when they run into a problem. Have a plant going down in water.. she is on the way into a lock out. If you can figure out now why she is stressed, you have the shortest stop in growing time. Once they go into a lock out.. you lose around 2 weeks of growing and development on the plant, till you have sorted your fuck up 

Fertilizer is a double edged blade.. at least when you give recommendations to use it. I try to stay below the "killing range".. just to not get a rant how my advice killed somebodies crops 

The measurements I posted shouldn't be in the critical area and not hurt any plants.. but I agree with you.. the sky is the limit and you can bring the dosage up still easy. But only do that, when you understand what you do with fertilizer.

As a beginner in using it, stick to the rule: Less is always better!! And once you have a few harvests done and feel experimental.. go ballistic!!  

I am still a bit running in circles in regards to soil. Hehehe I am no specialist on soil and all my information I got from a pro grower in the Netherlands. 

Strangely they all switched back to soil and I feel a bit like the black sheep these days, still having my main focus on rock wool 

He wasn't as detailed as my little beginner guide.. but when I asked, what fertilizer system I should use down here, he was so kind to have a look around on the internet, what you find in SA. Importing fertilizer is due to the Post Office and its delays.. not really an option.. or you keep a monstrous stock yourself ^^

I never tried Heaven.. simply as the guy simply told me: Use fish, grow, bloom and the most important Top-Max. Top-Max is a bit the product I would miss, if Bio Bizz would suddenly disappear.. rest you can pack together with other products too. Seagro I used myself before too.. the better N supplier you find in Guanoflo.. you also get it at Builders, Garden section. But still way less potent in N as Fish-Mix. SeaGro is a toy version of Fish-Mix.

Using the full BioBizz range could get very expensive. So a clear warning to your wallet, if you switch. My fertilizer cost are higher as my electricity cost.. and that is a word  But.. plants grow and flower very very nicely with that combo. Anything you add.. like me Root Juice.. just dents your wallet a bit more.

So if you try Heaven.. ^^ please let me know. For now, I stick to the 5 I use.. 1Liter of Top-Max will cost around 600 Rand with delivery cost.. Fish and Grow should be 255 at a shop and Bloom 270... 

I see just to many posting single Bio Bizz components they use.. is a fertilizer system and should be used like that.

So here is my guide to Bio Bizz to use in soil (recommended soil: Freedom Farms Green Bag, Premium Classic).

For Autoflower, follow the light-mix / coco mix table as good as you can, with 2 changes to be more on the save side, if you start with the fertilizer.

You need 4 products for soil: Fish-Mix, Grow, Bloom and Top-Max

First change to the table: Start giving Fish-Mix when you got your first 5 finger leaf growing, not before!

Second change: Only start with Top-Max, when your flowers are finger thick.

And no guessing how much you put into your water, be as accurate as you can be! 1ml is 1ml.. not 1.5 or 0.7.. is 1!

Lets make a theory run:

You start the germination process with sterile water and let them pop and grow to about 2cm root.

Plant in your grow medium. 

As soon as the plants show their 5 finger leaf (end week 2, if slow week three), you add 2ml Fish-Mix to each liter of water you feed. (I syringe feed till they have occupied the 11 liter pot, is my max pot size for Autos)

If you run feminized seeds, the time table is not for you. But till now, you did the same.. go on feeding 2ml till they reach about 100cm, go up to 3ml per liter Fish-Mix.

When your plants show the first signs, that they go into flowering, swap from Fish-Mix to Grow and bloom. Autos follow the table, feminized go 2ml/2ml of each. When the flowers are easy to see by eye, I have the next shift and go 3/3 of Grow and Bloom.

As soon as the flowers reach finger thickness, time to add Top-Max to the party (1ml). This is not nutrition, is a enzyme forcing flower production.. and rather expensive ^^ So easy with it. You stay on 3/3 grow and bloom per liter from now on till end, you just add 2 more stages of Top-Max depending how your flowers grow. So the final weeks you run 3 Grow, 3 Bloom, 3 Top-Max per liter of water.

Every 2 weeks, put a flush day. Water the pots with pure water till you have a very good run off! Is to eliminate concentrated fertilizer pockets in the soil. If you use saucers, never ever let the plants stand in water for longer as 5 hours. Empty by hand if needed.

2 weeks before harvest you drop the Grow and Bloom.. if you feel freaky and your wallet is filled, stay on adding 2ml Top-Max only for the next 4-5 days, then pure water till the end.

(I recommend a 2 day total darkness stress and no water before you cut and hang to dry.. if you haven't tried, try, curing time drops quite a bit with that method, smoke is way smoother from the start)

Autoflower, you can follow that table really 1:1.. but plants not following their grow schedule you will kill. So always use your brain.. giving a not yet flowering plant bloom.. will hurt her over time. She just doesn't need the P yet in those amounts.

The sole difference between Fish-Mix and Grow is that Grow is 75% Fish-Mix and 25% molasses. So when you swap from Fish to Grow, you reduce N and add sugar.. just that you understand. The additional sugar is also a way to push the plants into flowering.. what means.. do not use Grow on early Autos!!!!!! You can use Grow from time to time on your feminized in Veg state.. but I personal stick to Fish-Mix only during the growing phase. 

And a last little add on.. for Autoflowers I recommend to use Root Juice from Bio Bizz.. you can already dump the seeds in a glass with Root Juice mix (4ml) and also wet the paper towels with it. It improves the grow of your roots a lot.. and bigger roots mean faster grow.. Autoflower depend on being fast in the first 3 weeks or your plant will stay rather small. Is additional cost.. and not needed for Fems.. they have enough time ^^

Hope that helped.. any questions.. just ask.. and I wouldn't use Bio Bizz for Hydro... Fish-Mix has about the same smell as fresh diarrhea after a day when you let the water stand.. soil you smell nothing at all from the plants.. never used it on Coco.. so can't say.

Hope that helped a little 

NPK ratios:

Fish-Mix: 5-1-4 Grow: 4-3-6 Bloom: 2-7-4

Always give it a good shake before you use it!!!!!!!

You are still in soil.. good soil... even you stop now with all fertilizer, you will get a good harvest out of those plants. I wouldn't go panic mode right now  Flush and read up a bit on the fertilizer.. if somebody in here uses hortimix, they will have some good information for you to go on. Swapping to Bio Bizz has the same result.. you have to learn the fertilizer.. so i see no help there right now. You have some kiff plants.. result should still be satisfying, just keep your calm 

36 minutes ago, SAgrower said:

Thank you, appreciate all the information I can gather at this stage. I will try the fan leaf break and let you know.

 

What I meant with the feeding is as follows

 

Week 1 1ml. 2ml. 2ml

Week 2 2ml. 3ml. 2ml

Week 3 3ml. 4ml. 3ml

 

So now the guide stops there for example so all I did was to carry on with:

 

Week 4 4ml. 5ml. 3ml

Week 5 5ml. 6ml. 4ml

 

Etc etc etc.

 

Should I not have done this as my grow from start to finish will be more than the guide's 16 weeks.

 

Other than that I am happy with how they are growing. The plants in the plastic pots were given to me and I really never bothered to replant them into bigger pots. With my next grow I will go a bit bigger pots, just not so sure of 60L pots as the wind is sometimes so bad here in the Cape that I move them behind some shelter etc.

 

Again, thanks for the help, appreciate it.

 

 nooooooo!!! If you go on with that you will kill your plants 

Plants grow.. they use more water.. the more they drink, the more they absorb. You give em more water and boost it. I would give them a 2 day flush.. just to get the levels down a bit. You most likely over did it ^^

If you are still learning the fertilizer, you need EC and ppm meter as CreX said.. or you will end in misery. "Lets give some more" is in most cases a killer. Get contact with a person more experience with the fertilizer you use.. and get some tips. (I got a complete introduction from a guy how to use Bio Bizz) When ever you want to increase your fertilizer amount.. never do that on all plants at once.. less frustrating. Soil is not like hydro and you have a fair chance to safe them, if you mess up.. but still.. serious fertilizer burn will ruin your harvest yield and make a very long curing time. Best is to make some bubble hash with that ^^

I am CT.. Blouberg.. bigger pots!!  Makes your life with watering also easier.. morning, evening.. done. I guess you have to water those 3-4 times to keep em wet all day long.

You can also build your own wind protection with some green garden webbing (builders has in the garden section), 2 posts, concrete umbrella stands. Easier to move those stands.. just has to break the wind.. not block it. 

Friend has a Braai spot in the middle of the wind area he wanted to use for plants.. we get easy 40-50 knots of wind here. So we wrapped the area once around with mosquito netting (also from builders).. sun passes.. air too ^^ and also didn't rip or needs replacement. Would call it a working concept  gave him a huge grow area with not to much cost and effort.