Naughty.Psychonaut

18 minutes ago, Prom said:

What the thread actually shows.. we need a naming convention for weed.. right now is just El Dorado out there. 

The more you think into.. the more I believe OG is simply "Original".. as not that many strains can be OG. Or ^^ my Gelato will be OG Gelato  

I would say in this case that there should be way more OG's. like OG skunk, cz there's 100 different kinds of skunk, but there should be a OG kind, not true? The landrace skunk gene should be OG skunk then, by formality. 

a OG basically of every strain then...... 

they traded seeds, not charas. probably not even bud as much, but more seeds. like the BIG SEEDS TRADE, that went on for centuries and started wars and shit.

recriational cannabis smoke inhalation been happening for many many many, if I remember right, even before seen as holy sacrament and used in religious ways. before then more only textiles, rope and such. there are even prehestoric drawings found that indicates the ritualistic use of a sacred herb as spiritual medicines, a herb that looks suspiciously alot like cannabis, but the oaks didn't have the best abilities to make good art, so it looks kinda like palm leaves might even be extinct species

what I am saying is not that this was the only weed plant that grew in any of those regions, this was likely just the one strain that most people liked. 

there was no way of testing thc and cbd and all the terpenes and all that shit back in those days.

5 minutes ago, Prom said:

Many botanists believe Cannabis sativa to be  native to India. Sativas are also known as narrow-leaf drug or NLD. On the other hand, pure Indicas (Known as broad-leaf drug or BLD) originate from a small area.  This area spans parts of southern Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and a tiny portion of south-western China. Therefore, many cannabis experts claim that what people call Indicas should actually be called Afghanicas or BLD in order to avoid confusion.

where is this from?

how is this so very little known?

that area seems dry man, even the air. 

compared to when you move over to the side of asia, Burma is a literal jungle.

if I may ask, what makes you believe soooo strong that it couldn't have come from Vietnam, even regarding the fact that they traded in seeds for over 20 years in the 50's to 60's.

just think about it... cannabis was highly sought after, people wanted to trade this and move the stuff around. there was landraces in that area, why wouldn't they trade it?

these mountains??

the wettests it gets is the flash flood when the ice melts

here's a map to show rivers, dams and well everything

looks like minimal rivers and dams, most water and glaciers are on the side of the Karakoram Mountain range, which is not part of the Hindu Kush Mountain range. 

so I don't think they would've called it Hindu Kush if it came from somewhere next to Hindu Kush.

but who knows, not me....

2 minutes ago, Prom said:

I think Kush is originated from the Nepalese landrace.. but I could be wrong. Is just way closer and in the same mountain chain as India, Afghanistan, Pakistan.. tastes about the same ^^ 

The name Kush picked up, because it was popularised from the Kush Mountains man. 

but it was indica. meaning it HAD to travel there. 

if it traveled from another dry area, wouldn't it have been more sativa? 

I mean, like you said, Kush is pure Indica. 

how does this happen?

Yeah, it seems for the most part, all the stories are about the Waldos. 

just not sure if the name stuck because of the formal political gathering regarding cannabis legislations, or just the random group of people that would come around every 4.20 at 4:20 to 420 all together hahah

I guess not as much a myth to that one, but still a nice topic

6 minutes ago, Prom said:

Hindu Kush = Great Mountains.. or something like that  Kush comes from the mountains.. not flat lands

are you saying that the pure indica strain first grew in the Afghani mountains, there is no single way that it could've travled there? remember Indica doesn't come from dry areas 

4 minutes ago, StickyD420 said:

This should be easy, in simple it's the 20th day of the 4th month. A hippie celebration as to speak and to smokers it's their official, unofficial holiday. 

so why this day?

yeah, best charas in the world come from that region. 

what I am saying though is you don't get indica genealogy in the desert. 

the fact that it's a pure indica idicates that it's not originally from the Hindu Kush moutains, but rather from somewhere indica naturally grows.

speculations say it's from Vietnam, since Afghanistan traded ALL sorts of seeds through means of the silk road in 1950-1970. 

hahahah

maybe anyone knows the truth about where "420" came from???

OG kush is an indica

indica couldn't come from Afghanistan

Original Kush didn't even originate in the Kush mountains. 

the kush passed around these days was a random seed found by "Bubba" when he bought a random bag of weed in America and he claimed it was the Original Kush. 

is this true? your guess is good as mine.

15 minutes ago, Adansonia digitata said:

Nah, just find it funny. For years the OG abbreviation has stood for original. I can't remember where I heard that. 

hahahah maybe all over the place bro, OG can be used in soooooooo many ways. clothing brands, refering to elders in hiphop community, general slang in most forms suggest "original".

just researching the meaning of "original" in the cannabis industry will actually point out that the strain is not the original, it's a cross, even though the masses will refer to it as the "Original Kush". 

It was indeed grown by the ocean, though. but the masses will argue that we shouldn't call it that. 

what if you click on the link that sais "watch on youtube" 

will try another way in the meantime

17 hours ago, Thunder Grown said:

You think simply growing by the ocean magically makes a strain an OG?  Strain's became popularized because of the black market and later medical, and those black markets growers used clone only cuttings to deliver consistent quality.  Florida's cut of OG kush is called Triangle Kush, a lot of the cuts stem from the same genetics and are just named after the region or grower who held them.

When people refer to "OG Kush", they generally mean one of the elite cuttings.  So to have OG kush, you either need to get a clone of the elite cuts or get genetics directly from one of the elite cuts that are considered "OG kush".  In my opinion at least.

just read a few things here and there, I can definitly say that a big number of the people agree that it does NOT stand for Ocean Grown and the fact that people say that makes some people butthurt. especialy this guy... (9.20)

what this guy also says is that the Bubba story also carries a whole lot of mystery to it. Here's that guy from your post, Josh D, giving some background info on it. 

So now I wana know this, if OG stands for original we have to ask ourselves, was this strain the original Kush? No, it wasn't. It was a cross with the "original" Kush, that really might not even have been the original Kush, cause of the story Bubba told.

You think that Bubba really got a random bag of weed and grew out the bag seed from it and that happened to be THE KUSH? so the deeper I dig into that story, with my common sense wide open, the more the story falls apart. 

like I said, unbaised research.

now, the question that remains, was the strain grown by the ocean? Yes, indeed it was. The new cross between the "so to speak" Hindu Kush and whatever they happened to cross it with, WAS grown by the ocean. as stated many times in many of these articles and links above. 

the more believable story is the Silk Road story where soldiers from Afghanistan and Vietnam where trading seeds around 1950 to 1960 and they got the seeds and from there US soldiers brought it over from Vienam during the Vietnam war that ended in 1970. In bulk.

It got bred around and morphology caused a phenotype that gained popularity between the masses on the West Coast. Who then started refering to it as the OG as in "original" like the guy said in the first video. But what he also, very clearly states, is that its genealogy cannot be traced, making it very clear that it is indeed NOT the original. but I am not saying I am agreeing with the dude, because what it very well was, was grown by the ocean, and like you yourself said, a strain gains it's name by the region it was grown or breeder or whatever. If I am a breeder I can call my strain whatever I like. 

I will say this though, when I started this thread I was unaware of the Bubba story, but now that I've heard it I don't agree with it being called Original Kush, if it's a cross anyway, even if that's what it stood for. 

Definitly doesn't mean Ocean Grown either.

40 minutes ago, Thunder Grown said:

You think simply growing by the ocean magically makes a strain an OG?  

few sentences later 

40 minutes ago, Thunder Grown said:

a lot of the cuts stem from the same genetics and are just named after the region or grower who held them.

brother, I will provide a looksee at all the info you posted and go look into it even further and it will be unbiased research. 

still doesn't add up in my mind, but could be because of my preconception

at the end of the day the discussion is so insignificant I couldn't care less what it really means, but thought it to be interesting discussion nonetheless

to me this one still falls under fiction, probably always will, typically because there's 100 meanings for the word and not only in the cannabis industry....

any other topics?

can't have 100 originals, but very easy to have 100 ocean grown strains.

if OG was soooooo specific to that one genetic that can only be passed down by cut, how did OG land it's spot in the name pool for genetics? and so many genetics at that?

easy answer, it's not. 

1 hour ago, Thunder Grown said:

He was connected to the original crew that spread the cut to LA earlier.

but he was part of the original crew, wasn't he? 

so he started something that was 100% not what he said it was? cool

now it isn't a kush either? so it's neither OG nor is it Kush???? god damn.... does this guy not just wana rewrite the whole dictionary?

how does it get called OG Kush if he is the one who started it, but then it isn't even OG or Kush?????????? think about this for a second man...

does this dude know the rest of the world exists and that literally EVERYONE (even before his claims) calls it OG kush.....

this story falls apart the more info comes out

there are threads on the internet that go into depth about how there is only one god too

6 minutes ago, Thunder Grown said:

Josh D's story is that he got the "kush" cut from Matt "Bubba" Berger, who flew it in from Florida.  Everyone started calling everything Kush so they named it original kush. 

yeah, I read the link you gave, not really agreeing with it though hahah

What part of Cali you grew up in? I was in santa cruz a while ago doing a survival outpost.

Heard the term in the 1 year I was there brother....

In the book I read that discussed the topic it mentioned that the fact that not many cannabis plants love coastal conditions, this term was used to make classification easier, to add to the names of strains that are coastal tolerant. 

which makes a ton of sense.

my bad there, I thought you said they brought it from LA to Cali. but yeah, no.... doesn't add up to me that a guy who claims to be a OG specialist could even say that the strain that's grown by the ocean and is reffered to as OG is not called Ocean Grown. 

if that is to be true, it would make even less sense to me