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I really enjoy growing in FF. These two only received one microbe feeding and they are still in their1L pots.. They seem really healthy. I know they will be route bound soon.. Might have to go ahead and pot them up even though I can not confirm sex yet.. I have one of my other girs that have a very shiny set of leaves on every second node.. Any Ideas on why that would be?

So 22 days in I am very happy with the growth. But I am starting to see some issues with my wedding gelato. Not sure whether it is wind burn or the fact that I didn't PH balance my water for the first couple of feeds? I have started feeding Worm Juice with Calmag and slight molasses with a PH range between 6.3 and 6.7. Within the next week I will consider topping some of the ladies to start the mainline training. Franco's lemon cheese was killed in action - RIP so Chocolate Haze will fill that void. One day I will do a K.I.A run for all those ladies that didn't pull through on germination. Wedding Gelato Glookies Upper Cut Old school Purple Queen Chocolate Haze

Good day growmies.. I was gifted a tobaco plant and was wondering if any body on here might have grown some and maybe have some pointers for me..

Yeah, get them in the ground. Full sun. Very little to no nutrients. Water often, daily or every second day depending. Basically keep soil moist. If you want seeds then let the flowers grow until the seed stalks dry out. But if it's for the leaf, then you need to pluck off the developing flower stalks on the sides and top. Removing flowers will give you massive leaves. Leaving the flowers to develop the leaves are way smaller.

GHE Soft Water works well, you will need calmag to buffer the coco. Always useful to keep some on hand for just incase as well.

Looks good enough to drink lol #couldntresist

Partial Harvest Oct 2020 Plants in white pot get the chop along with one plant in Terracotta pot Kept entire grow seedless (yay!) Buds from the plant in terracotta pot are nice n long but thin/skinny (immature) but what they lack in size they make up for in flavour & smell - very powerfull sweet citrus smell & flavour, not too potent but nice - tastes very much like lemon creams (biscuit) 2 plants from white pot are semi harvested (gonna let them regrow for next season) Buds from plant with long cola are nice and puffy, decent sized nugs that glitter nicely under the light, has a similar fruity citrus smell like above but much more of a bolder flavour - heavy hitter & very calming Buds from plant with fat cola where nice & chunky but also immature as they didn't have much resin on thge buds, doesn't have much of a smell after drying and the smoke is OK but not the same quality as other ones above (needed another 2 weeks at least but was revegging) Fat cola 1 oz (28-30g+/-) Aftermath Long Cola Few buds from this lady (bad pic) Aftermath Terracotta pot bud (immature bud but powerful smell/flavour - tearing a piece of bud and whiffing it is hectic) Miscellaneous bud - about an ounce Curing (Gonna wrap black electric tape around the jar to ''black'' it out and throw in back of the cupboard)

Time for the weekly update. These plants are growing like crazy but I am still unable to sex them. Anyway, to me they look in incredible condition.

Harvest day... Pic 1 - Cocopopo Auto Pic 2 - Gelato Samba Auto

Hey bru It wasn't rock hard dense but still pretty decent. What I did for the soil was I lightly dropped each pot a few times and added about 2 handfuls of living soil to each. Then i did exactly that...slowly watered. After about a week or so, they were fine. Harvest day for the cocopopo auto and gelato samba auto is today. I'll upload some pics after the chop. They're jut finishing their dark period. I germinated 2 Quarter Pounder Autos and planted them on Sunday. Also using living soil medium. I'll start a new diary for those girls The last picture is of the previous harvest.

Hi folks. So I've been following the forum and learnt a lot from fellow growers. This will be my second indoor run so I thought I might as well start a little grow diary. I have a thing for running different strains and trying to experience some of the fire genetics on offer. So in this cycle I will be running the following: Wedding Gelato - Royal Queen Seeds Purple Queen - Royal Queen Seeds Upper Cut - Oni Seeds Glookies - Barney's Farm Old School - Ripper Seeds Franco's Lemon Cheese - GHSC Chocolate Haze - Royal Queen Seeds *(Back up)* I started germination on the 19th of September with all 6 feminised seeds going straight into peat pellets. No water or wet paper towels for me, I have had 100% germination success with seeds straight into pellets. For some reason I feel handling the seed less during germination might be better. That being said... during the transplant from pellet to pot I accidentally broke the tap root of the Franco's lemon cheese in half.. It seems like the lady started growing sideways and when I removed the pellet from the tray the tap root snapped in half with that said a Chocolate Haze went into a peat pellet as reserve and I transplanted the broken Franco's with the hope of recovery. To my surprise Franco's started growing a new tap root without any cotelydon showing yet. So nursing her back to health now. I cut of the gaas from the peat pellets before transplanting to the final pot as I feel some of the gaas might stunt root growth by not allowing easy penetration through the meshy material. So today will be day 9 since germination and I am seeing some nice 2nd set of leaves developing. I also did a soil tup up today to get some of that stem shooting some extra roots. I will be running a full mainline training exercise in 20l pots on all the ladies bar those that might not like the High Stress Training so much. Looking forward to sharing the experience and getting some experienced growers to impart some knowledge. 19th September 23rd September 28 September

Would love to know.. I would assume you could harvest leaves at any point.. But I think the drying is the trick..

Cool thnx bud.. will get them in the ground.. Any advice on the drying of the leaves?

Plants look very healthy. Good growth.

Keep on eye on the tallest of the bunch - males have a tendency to start stretching quickly (1.5"+ in a day) vs females during pre-flowering And I agree they looking very good, keep up the good work

My bru, your beard

So we are 15 days in since the 6 seeds were dropped in peat pellets. All the ladies are rooting very nicely. Franco's lemon cheese is almost there but not sure whether this shock early on will stunt the rest of her growth? The back up Chocolate Haze germinated successfully and was transplanted during the week. Still just sticking to very light watering every 2nd or 3rd odd day. Hoping the inherent nutes in the soil will last for 3 to 4 odd weeks. Stand out lady is already identified as Glookies. Super fast growth and very very tight node spacing. Glookies Purple Queen Chocolate Haze

Hey 420sa fam: Here is another update on the current grow. Not much change since the last update. I needed to remove them from the grow space for a full day as I was without electricity. Gelato Samba Auto and Cocopopo Auto - week 11 (day 72)

Contradicting opinions coming trough on this subject hahaha. In the end it's all up to the (New) grower, but they have to do some research (and there is a lot you can read up on the subject) about the different nutes, mediums and equipment required and obviously what the budget allows. Then decide which way they want to go.

I started out with DWC and am now slowly moving away from it, mainly because I want to start getting into doing SCRoG nets and doing that with a standard DWC setup is balls to change the reservoirs. DWC was definitely super cheap to start out; literally just needed to buy the nutes, air pump and airstones. Cool thing is when I move away from DWC I can repurpose the airpumps for maybe a AACT system, or if I ever decide to go Autopots I can run the airpumps into the pots for some extra bang. Ironically, soil can be either even cheaper, or one of the most expensive options. Cheap if you pop the seeds outdoor, expensive if you go indoor with proper pots, bagged soil and Biobizz nutes, plus all the other equipment. But expense aside, I am having a blast using Freedom Farms Premium (Green Bag) with Biobizz. Some of the most hastle-free growing I've had yet, but I attribute that to all the mistakes I made while doing hydro. The great thing about hydro is that if there's a problem, you can immediately flush, throw out the reservoir and make your amendments. With soil, I feel like you really gotta know what's wrong before making a fix because from what I have seen, there's about a 3-4 day delay to actually seeing a result to a fix. Although, given all the buffers provided with going with soil, in order to have gotten into a really bad problem is a feat of it's own (at least nutrient wise). So I think I'll say, yes a beginner can begin with soil. Should they though? I think what a beginner should definitely do is buy the right soil. The biggest issue I see with beginners and soil is they either try to pop the seeds or transfer seedlings into soil that's way too hot, or the soil is entirely terrible. With hydro, unless you're using pool water, or live in an area with poor water quality, everything else is pretty much in your control and in a way, less can go wrong due to naivety. Jissis I've literally gone back and forth in my head with whether to vote yes/no I'm going to take the question literally; should a beginner start with soil? I'm going to say no. I think a beginner should learn the ropes with hydro so they can attend to deficiencies/toxicity immediately and also learn the subtle art of 'less-is-more'.

@SkunkPharmThink its a good idea, believe many new growers would benefit from such a thread. Easy and manageble way to start your journey down the cannabis growing rabbit hole. An inexpensive way to get their toes wet, without the complexities and technical equipment of dwc and coco. They can grow their first plants and there after decide where they want to take it- soil, dwc or coco.

I have grown in soil and currently prefer coco. Never attempted hydro though. From a beginners point of view, we cannot expect someone living in Sandton, Clifton or Umhlanga to be experts at mixing soil and compost or to even be interested in making their own soil. People want quick and easy. So what you can buy from a store. So we have 2 identical setups, decent quality lights, nice tent, good extraction and air circulation, temperature and RH is controlled perfectly. So environment wise, it's all good and the only variable is the growing medium and the effort required on your usual "garden maintenance". Both soil and coco will require you water at least every 2 or 3 days during summer when the plants are big, coco may hold a bit more water than soil though but that is besides the point. So the frequency of watering is the same. Soil can be purchased from a shop, as can coco. Now here is where things start to differ, some people use just water and expect the soil to provide everything needed from start to finish, including flowering. I feel we can all agree that none of our local soils (which are stocked in majority of grow shops) will suffice without some additional source of nutes. This will be noticeable when compared to a plant which is receiving nutes or additional source of nutes. Now for soil you have a few options: Liquid / powder nutrients which are mixed with water and fed to the plant AACT Soil amendments Out of those options, I personally feel it easiest is liquid nutes, such as BioBizz. AACT will require someone to go through more effort, obtain more equipment and brew multiple times throughout the growing process and try source everything to go into a brew etc. etc. For Coco, there really one main option which majority of people do - feed nutes from a bottle. With coco you certainly have to check the PH, although in flower and once the strength of the nutes are high enough, this generally ends up within your ballpark so you do not actually have to try and lower the PH further with PH down. You do not even need an EC / PPM pen if you follow the feeding chart on the guide - so same as using BioBizz. I do not see much of a difference between using soil or coco if one chooses to go the easy route, which I feel majority of beginner growers who have the funds available, will choose to do. If we look at people who want something easy which will "just work" I feel using bottle nutes is the easiest option, coupled with what you can buy from a grow shop. Where is the difference? How is coco more difficult? The amount of work and effort required is the same, the only possible difference being checking the PH of your nutrient mix before feeding it to the plants. You may be able to get away with it when using a good soil which is buffered.

I don't have any issues with soil. It is the easiest way to grow. AACT are also a cost effective way to feed your plants. Seed sprout tea is just as eazy. Maybe I should put up an easy grow section on the forum. Easy soil recipes, aact and sst recipes.

Understanding Genetics/Breeders: Starting out I was under the impression GSC was GSC and Chemdawg was Chemdawg... I wish someone had explained the importance of breeder cuts used in the genetics. Having the same name, doesn't mean it's the same cut. I wish someone had told me that just because I see an awesome picture of a strain it doesn't mean that the breeder is good. The death of Dutch Genetics: I wish someone had told me earlier how so many of the popular Dutch seed banks that built up a reputation in the 90s, were fucked by government back in the mid 2000s, and that they lost most of their genetics in the process. I wish someone had told me that most of those breeders started selling Spanish bulk genetics as their own to replace the cup winning strains from the 90s. The US breeders are years ahead of EU genetics now days (sans 1 or 2 high end breeders), there's a reason why the stuff being sold now have completely different terp profiles to what that same strain carried a few decades ago. IPMs: I started out thinking that you treat a pest when it's there. Preventative IPMs are so important. Explaining Phenotypes: I long lived with this idea that a strain was what one is after, and once you have the strain you're good. I wish I knew that the strain is really only such a small part of the grow. Finding the pheno that you want from that lineage is far more important than the strain itself. Just because my buddy grew a fire Spumoni, doesn't mean I'll get a good one if I pop a pack.

I'll help you if you happen to be in that situation