420SA Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Does anyone know or tried these guys ethanol? https://enterpriseethanol.co.za Are they legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just order from Ace Chem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Yeah Ace is easy. They also carry a range of media, so if you know what you're looking for you can buy most things needed for pesticide remediation and post processing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Contacted Ace Chem and they don't sell food grade ethanol or ethanol safe for human consumption. I got a quote from Enterprise. 10L for R1127.00. Does that sound like a reasonable amount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totemic Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) The thing with food grade ethenol is that you can drink it. It becomes an issue then that full government taxes and duties need to be levied. Prices I have gotten for 96% from Protea chemicals was just about R7k for a 25l. Works out to the same amount of actual ethenol if you purchased 70l of vodka and distilled the proof up. That price doesnt sound right 420. That sounds like the price for denatured ethenol. You dont want the denatured stuff. Poison to your organs. Edited November 8, 2018 by Totemic Added content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Most etoh you get from lab supply won't be "human grade" unless you're willing to pay the levy - that's the point of the levy, to prevent people buying it to water down into a consumable.. You can easily use a 95% proof product and either distill out impurities and/or use some media to remove the diethyls that are included. If you can purge properly/know what you're doing (even a little google will help) you can use methanol no problem. Even using Iso to remove chlorophyll is safe, provided you purge properly/remove the residuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 They listed Herbasol Extraction Alcohol (5L) on the quotation. Googled it and came by this ad https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-other-home-garden-items/queensburgh/herbasol-alcohol-herbal-extraction-solvent/1003390626950911163622209 Clearly targetting cannabis oil makers. Does indeed say its denatured but is somehow safe for herbal extraction, is that possible? This will be my first time making oil so I'm not sure about methanol ey. I mean if I dont purge 100% does that mean possible blindness? lol I'd still ideally want ethanol that isn't denatured so what could I expect to pay for 2 to 3 litres? Levy and all... If you can even get amounts as low as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkPharm Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Dablabz sell food grade ethanol. Not sure about the price. R470 per liter. At this price you need to recycle what you use by distilling off the ethanol for re-use. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Do they supply a lab certificate with it? Or do you have to take their word? Always try buy lab certified products and preferably try work under a fume hood. It also depends what kind of final product you want. You can crystallise CBD pretty easily after a few filters or you can work with a raw crude. Final outcomes can also influence your solvent choices. Etoh is the preferred, but not the only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 @SkunkPharm I am assuming you're not Grey wolf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkPharm Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 No sorrySent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailblazer420 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Can someone explain the difference between isopropyl and ethanol? I've always used isopropyl as it's much easier to obtain Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Trailblazer420 said: Can someone explain the difference between isopropyl and ethanol? I've always used isopropyl as it's much easier to obtain Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk Different molecule. Ethanol is easy to get, i bought it from my pharmacy on special order. You just pay out your arse for it due to it being pure alcohol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 19 hours ago, 420SA said: Contacted Ace Chem and they don't sell food grade ethanol or ethanol safe for human consumption. I got a quote from Enterprise. 10L for R1127.00. Does that sound like a reasonable amount? Nope that sounds like denatured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 @420SA these are the prices you're looking at: 96.1% - 96.2% FOOD GRADE ETHANOL 1 x 2.5L : 96.1% Food grade ethanol @ R 926.43 ex vat 1 x 5L : 96.1% Food grade ethanol @ R 1,678.00 ex vat 1 x 25L : 96.1% Food grade ethanol @ R 7,642.19 ex vat 99.9% FOOD GRADE ETHANOL 1 x 2.5L : 99.9% Food grade ethanol @ R 960.04 ex vat 1 x 5L : 99.9% Food grade ethanol @ R 1,741.42 ex vat 1 x 25L : 99.9% Food grade ethanol @ R 7,936.22 ex vat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 [mention=1]420SA[/mention] these are the prices you're looking at: 96.1% - 96.2% FOOD GRADE ETHANOL 1 x 2.5L : 96.1% Food grade ethanol @ R 926.43 ex vat 1 x 5L : 96.1% Food grade ethanol @ R 1,678.00 ex vat 1 x 25L : 96.1% Food grade ethanol @ R 7,642.19 ex vat 99.9% FOOD GRADE ETHANOL 1 x 2.5L : 99.9% Food grade ethanol @ R 960.04 ex vat 1 x 5L : 99.9% Food grade ethanol @ R 1,741.42 ex vat 1 x 25L : 99.9% Food grade ethanol @ R 7,936.22 ex vatThanks a million@greenkushWhose prices are these?Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 http://www.ethanolsa.co.za/contact.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Nice link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 Cool will probably get from them. Thanks all for the input.... now my next pursuit is a distiller to recycle the solvent. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, 420SA said: Cool will probably get from them. Thanks all for the input.... now my next pursuit is a distiller to recycle the solvent. Any ideas? Those are easy, but you're going to pay out your arse for one. http://distillique.co.za/distilling_shop/32-diy-kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 Dont these water distillers work? Some are priced 2k to 4k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenkush Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, 420SA said: Dont these water distillers work? Some are priced 2k to 4k I have no idea, I generally just chuck the solvent and use fresh. But I get it easily from my SO's lab, they use tons of the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Rather get a boiling flask and condenser. Should be cheaper too. Use a water pump with an aspirator and you can use it for your condenser and vacuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, GreenthumbHydro said: Rather get a boiling flask and condenser. Should be cheaper too. Use a water pump with an aspirator and you can use it for your condenser and vacuum. Would you be able to show this to me in practical form? A boiling flask is the round bottomed flask right and a condenser is that coil like thing right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420SA Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 Something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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